Boxing Trivia

[Yogi]

are you sure? i thought one day in 1958 clay went to the gym dundee was in and introduced himself. dundee was training willie pastrano at the time. and clay asked dundee if he could spar a few rounds with willie. dundee refused cause he figured clay would be badly hurt very quickly cause clay was 17 and pastrano was champion. but clay kept asking and asking and making noise and bothering dundee for minutes, so dundee finally gave him the chance, just to shut him up. as soon as it started clay quickly pumped jabs and leads into pastrano's face and within a couple of minutes cut him up very badly. dundee stopped it, and he said, "When you turn pro, give me a call!"

at least that's how i know it.

Yep, I'm sure...at least that's the story Dundee tells in his bio (pages 17 & 18 of 'I Only Talk Winning' discusses the phone call to the hotel and subsequent meeting).

The Ali/Pastrano sparring session is also discussed in the book, as well (pages 152 & 153), and Dundee says that happened just before Pastrano fought & lost to Alonzo Johnson in 1959, which was also a fight that took place in Ali's hometown of Louisville.

[2nd II none]

Wow this thread is still going.

[butterfly1964]

Yep, I'm sure...at least that's the story Dundee tells in his bio (pages 17 & 18 of 'I Only Talk Winning' discusses the phone call to the hotel and subsequent meeting).

The Ali/Pastrano sparring session is also discussed in the book, as well (pages 152 & 153), and Dundee says that happened just before Pastrano fought & lost to Alonzo Johnson in 1959, which was also a fight that took place in Ali's hometown of Louisville.

so that was before the sparring session?

[Yogi]

so that was before the sparring session?

Well yeah...unless you somehow think that the year 1959 came before 1957.

[butterfly1964]

what did jack dempsey do to strenghthen his chin?

[butterfly1964]

what did jack dempsey do to strenghthen his chin?

nobody knows?