Comments Thread For: Haye: Vitali Klitschko Has Not Had a Defining Fight Yet!

[Simurgh]

Are you trying to say he didn't hurt Vitali?

Now you are just trolling. I'll sum up Sander's fight




Lets put it this way that you'll understand. Sanders gave Vitali less problems than Mavrovic gave Lewis.

[chloelloyd]

I respect the hell out of Corrie Sanders. But you can't compare Sanders, who was always lazy and never in shape against a undefeated champion like Mavorivc who had one of the greatest chins of the 90's era.

Mavorivc was struck by tragedy after the Lewis fight and that ended what would have been a Hall of Fame career. Mavorivc was never hurt in any one of his fights prior to Lewis, never even struggled against a long list of solid contenders. He was undefeated and to this day the only blueprint to beating him was Lennox Lewis.
Vitali did dominate Sanders, but for the first 2 rounds Sanders really had VK going there.
Anyways I like all 4, Sanders, Maro,Lewis and VK. I just think a lot of people don't know much about Sanders or Maro and just think of them as guys who knocked out Wlad and who fought Lewis.

[Jam Jars]

Now you are just trolling. I'll sum up Sander's fight




Lets put it this way that you'll understand. Sanders gave Vitali less problems than Mavrovic gave Lewis.

37:35 please tell me why Vitali was running across the ring and then holding on and fell to the floor.

[Daddy T]

Vitali is a great champion and a great role model. I don't understand the hate on him and also the hate on Corrie Sanders from Klit Fans. Corrie Sanders was never motivated, he was a part time golfer and never viewed boxing as anything more then a hobby. He shocked Wladimir and for 2 rounds gave Vitali all that VK could handle before the fact that Sanders trained at Mickey D's caught up with him.
Sanders is massively underrated. He's no bum.
Vitali h2h is a top 5 HW of all times, it's not his fault this era is complete dog**** and his career defining moment was against a past prime old Lennox Lewis.
Lewis should have given him a rematch but that has been debated over and over and is a moot point. The issue with that is even if VK had beaten Lewis in the rematch, a 38 year old Lewis after so many wars and years of activity at the highest level does not become a 'great win' for VK, it just become a 'good win'
Vitali's retirement really hurt him, because those were the times he could have collected a few more scraps to his resume. Overall though, Wladimir is an ATG and Vitali is a sure fire Hall of Famer.
Vitali always brought it whenever he fought and other then the Chris Byrd incident, never once showed a lack of heart. I hope he does go on to fight David Haye and secure the career defining moment that he deserves.

Sanders had good power a very good beard and GREAT heart ie a dangerous opponent ... as wlad and vitali for that matter found out (he gave vit a pretty tough fight especially early on before his poor conditioning showed up - he was puffing and blowing by the second round). BUT he's not an opponent that should be in the running for the best win on a supposidely atg fighter's resume.

[chloelloyd]

Sanders had good power a very good beard and GREAT heart ie a dangerous opponent ... as wlad and vitali for that matter found out. BUT he's not an opponent that should be the best win on a supposidely atg fighter's resume.

Great points man. But I also want to point out, you should judge a resume not just on 1-2 big wins over ATG'S or Hall of Famers but on the overall body of work. In other words, beating 20 B Level Fighters is probably equal to if not better then beating 1 ATG and 20 D Level Fighters.
That being said, Vitalis resume is very weak and I think it will be a stretch to call him an ATG HW in terms of resume.
That's why he need the Haye fight, David Haye is just entering his prime and have a good chance to go on and do great things. If Vitali beats Haye, and David Haye end up being a Hall of Famer (not a stretch) that's a big win for Vk.
Very very risky fight at this point though.

[New England]

You know what......he's right.

At least Wlad beat Byrd and Haye.

What are Vitali's defining wins???

vitali lost, but he'll be remembered most for his fight against lennox lewis. that was honestly the last great HW fight.

[Fetta]

So if Haye actually beat Vitali, does he get credit??? Though Vitali is past his prime completely, I think Haye should get his dues.

On NSB no fighter ever gets credit for winning a fight.

That said whi has Haye beat that can be labeled career defining?

[Simurgh]

37:35 please tell me why Vitali was running across the ring and then holding on and fell to the floor.

Sanders had an amazing hands speed and he could hit pretty hard. He caught Vitali with that one punch as Vitali was too aggressive. He stunned him but Vitali recovered perfectly in matter of seconds.

This what would have happened if instead of Vitali was any other HW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABZu5v2JPuE

[jhon123]

So if Haye actually beat Vitali, does he get credit??? Though Vitali is past his prime completely, I think Haye should get his dues.

if haye outboxes vitali then he won get any credit, if he knocks the **** out of vitali then he defiantely will

[Cuban Linx]

LOL David's defining fight is his loss to little brother.