Martinez v Ward

[GrandpaBernard]

Ward beats him easily

[vacon04]

Me being a fan of Floyd and Ward doesn't change the fact that everyone is saying Dawson was drained, even though he was 186 lbs on fight night and looked in good shape at the weigh in.

So if people are saying that, what would be the difference if Sergio went down to 154 and looked in shape at the weigh in, and then weighed around 165 lbs or so on fight night???

People would be saying the same thing if they keep it 100.

Still back to what you originally quoted me on, yes Sergio is MUCH bigger than Floyd. Sergio and Floyd are further away in size than Sergio and Ward, that's a fact.

He was 186 yesterday? Damn, then he was severely dehydrated ... We're talking about an 11% loss of his body weight just of water. Only a few boxers do this and in fact look like crap during the weight in (see Rios, Jr)

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

the winner of jr - martinez vs ward would be a terrific fight. one of the most intriguing that could be made. it would sell. i'm not sure how competitive it would be, in fairness. i dont see anything from martinez and jr that makes me think they could beat ward.

Maybe Martinez-Ward but definitely not Chavez-Ward. If you don't think they could beat Ward why do you think it would be intriguing?

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

If martinez beat Ward that in my opinión os imposible, his the 1 p4p

He would be #1 too if he beat Floyd. IMO Floyd is a more winnable fight than Ward and more possible of actually happening.

[285Kid]

Ward talk about Martinez watch the video

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=564952

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

He was 186 yesterday? Damn, then he was severely dehydrated ... We're talking about an 11% loss of his body weight just of water. Only a few boxers do this and in fact look like crap during the weight in (see Rios, Jr)

Actually, was it 186? I think I remember saying he gained 19 or 20 lbs. But yea and these people still have the nerves the weight wasn't an issue.

[FeFist]

He would be #1 too if he beat Floyd. IMO Floyd is a more winnable fight than Ward and more possible of actually happening.

I doubt he'd be rated as #1 if he beats Floyd as I doubt it'd show tremendous skill on his part. It'd be a case of a larger fighter beating a smaller fighter. If he's beats Ward at Super Middleweight ( Not going to happen) then it couldn't be argued that it was down to a weight advantage, it'd be based on his skill.

Of course he could just stick to fighting the Middleweights in his division.

[danceswithfire]

i think chavez jr has a better chance of beating him than sergio

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

I doubt he'd be rated as #1 if he beats Floyd as I doubt it'd show tremendous skill on his part. It'd be a case of a larger fighter beating a smaller fighter.

But according to 4Corners we're talking about a drained fighter beating a guy at his own weight.

So his current resume + Chavez Jr and Floyd would not get him the #1 spot? That's harsh man...

[dibzvincent143]

good thing for ward again, he stays at his comfort zone, i'll doubt he'll give martinez a catchweight (which ofcourse sukkks) even if its a more reward less risk fight than the dawson fight.. IMO he'll beat martinez handily at his weight, he has everything that it takes in there and lets not forget martinez is a small middleweight already but i still doubt he'll make 154 that easy..

martinez doesnt have the inside game to neutralize anything that ward does.
he'll get KOed, just too big, smart and strong for him..

to beat ward we need the best version of hopkins in there..