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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostSergio Martinez would murder Cotto and that's why Cotto said he ain't fighting Martinez because it don't make business sense for him. Cotto would not walk out that ring on his own if he fought Sergio Martinez. Chavez Jr is going to get turned into a pinata and if you disagree then bet all of your points. As a matter a fact forget it because you ain't got no points.
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Originally posted by itiswhatitis View Postnever smh educate me on how u think a fight between sergio and cotto would go please...yea, do u disagree? cotto is a bigger draw than him..we will see sir...idc about any points and don't need to bet anything, Chavez is gonna get the job done.
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""Cotto is just too much of an easy target for someone as fast and strong as Sergio Martinez. Cotto can't hurt him. It would be a straight out massacre. Chavez Jr is going to fall like a red wood and I'm going to enjoy it."""
I agree with some of the points in this post.
Cotto is definitely the bigger draw, but unless Sergio age over night, it will be a very difficult fight for Cotto.
Cotto vs Martinez means Miguel will be a pretty big under dog.
Sergio will always look to reset his opponents with movement. He finds an angle and suddenly he moves in and attacks. The primary problem that this creates is if Sergio was just a one shot hitter, you can avoid this and move away. But Sergio is unique in that he follows up on his punching if you just go into a defensive shell, he will just keep throwing 3/4s and end up scoring points or hurting you.
I do believe Cotto got great boxing skills, but a great big man always beats a very good little man. Sergio is just too big for any 154 fighter tbh. His great counter punching skills will also trouble Cotto's style a lot.
I don't think Sergio will 'dominate' Cotto or 'destroy Cotto', but it should be a fairly comfortable decision.
This fight could actually happen if Sergio beats Jr.
Hmmm, I actually just read the last page of this thread and some how the topic is about Cotto vs Martinez.
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Originally posted by GRUSTLER View PostCotto is just too much of an easy target for someone as fast and strong as Sergio Martinez. Cotto can't hurt him. It would be a straight out massacre. Chavez Jr is going to fall like a red wood and I'm going to enjoy it.Last edited by itiswhatitis; 09-09-2012, 08:22 PM.
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This fight just proved that catch weights are good. Dawson looked like a zombie so why does Ward deserve to be a top p4p fighter. Sorry I don't see the supermiddleweight division as having a lot of talent Froch was getting schooled by Taylor until Taylor got caught. LH division is even worse since you had an old Bhop ,Tarver and Jones at the top. Ward has pretty much cleaned out the SMW division , which is why he should have gone up to 175 and tried for Dawson's title.Would have been a better fight and left no doubt to Ward's skills.
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Originally posted by chloelloyd View Post""Cotto is just too much of an easy target for someone as fast and strong as Sergio Martinez. Cotto can't hurt him. It would be a straight out massacre. Chavez Jr is going to fall like a red wood and I'm going to enjoy it."""
I agree with some of the points in this post.
Cotto is definitely the bigger draw, but unless Sergio age over night, it will be a very difficult fight for Cotto.
Cotto vs Martinez means Miguel will be a pretty big under dog.
Sergio will always look to reset his opponents with movement. He finds an angle and suddenly he moves in and attacks. The primary problem that this creates is if Sergio was just a one shot hitter, you can avoid this and move away. But Sergio is unique in that he follows up on his punching if you just go into a defensive shell, he will just keep throwing 3/4s and end up scoring points or hurting you.
I do believe Cotto got great boxing skills, but a great big man always beats a very good little man. Sergio is just too big for any 154 fighter tbh. His great counter punching skills will also trouble Cotto's style a lot.
I don't think Sergio will 'dominate' Cotto or 'destroy Cotto', but it should be a fairly comfortable decision.
This fight could actually happen if Sergio beats Jr.
Hmmm, I actually just read the last page of this thread and some how the topic is about Cotto vs Martinez.
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Originally posted by $ j-210 $ View Postdawson's just being respectful to ward.....he know's the weight weaken'd him
on the flip, I remember Chad barking at B.Hop about him not being a gangsta and that a gangsta would've KEPT FIGHTING....when dudes say Chad fought like a drained fghter...its true...when dudes say Chad loses everytime he doesn't fight a oldman in his 40's who can move and put his shots together...its true!!!....all I'm saying is that dudes are just SAYING what their eyes told them to say....if you see the color blue, you don't need anyone to confirm that the color is really blue after you reach a certain age
I thought Chad LOOKED fine at the weigh-in...go back and check how I put "LOOKS" in all caps....I wasn't completely sold on him being the dude I'm used to seeing in the ring...after a few rounds, I knew he was dead and all he was trying to do was keep SOG from burying him..it was weird and sad to see...I like BOTH fighters, Dawson a lil' more than Ward though..still, Chad quit under the most adversity we've ever seen him against...not a good look imo....do I still like Chad?...hell yea...do I respect Ward way more?...hell SUPER yea!!
MOST of the dudes who said the fight was gonna be boring got together with the butthurt dudes from the S6 and started trying to discredit Ward...so when dudes state the OBVIOUS(Chad was way off his game) and mention the weight, WARD LAND SECURITY got soldiers ready to drop the "EXCUSE" bomb on innocent boxing fans...the NEW WARD ORDER is here....do not speak the things you see with your eyes...your OWN eyes...at the end of the day, props to SOG and as young talented American fighter, he has to get used to ppl coming at his neck...American fighters are held to a different standard than the rest...and dudes know I'm not that patriotic....just calling a spade a spade
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostThe weight had an effect it must , only fools are throwing it as an excuse , Chads not going to back up on his words now and sound like a sook , its back to 175 he said , the only way you can ever settle the weight innuendo in this fight is for Ward to fight him again at 175 , might even happen down the road if Chad can get back to winning big fights , and I will be surprised if Andre does a Manny and challenge Dawson for a rematch and then refuse the fight because Chad wants 175 .
Off course Ward looked better he won easily , you normally do look great when you win easy , did he win because of the weight , probably not and will probably do it again at 175 , but probably aint accurate enough for me .
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