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  • Earl-Hickey
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    #21
    Originally posted by D-MiZe
    Vitali has no intentions of fighting Haye and I'm sure Wlad doesn't either.

    Either Haye comes back and earns his way to a shot or retires again.
    He did.

    By blasting out Chisora, who went the 12 with Vitali and gave him his toughest fight in years and schooled Helenius.

    Does Haye really need to bash up the Adameks and Charr's of this world?

    Or do you want him to go the Arreola route? Lets get Nagy Aguilera, and Kendrick Releford in there for Haye to earn his shot

    Just make the damn fight it's #2 vs #3 in the division and everyone knows it.

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    • joe strong
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      #22
      Originally posted by Cuban Linx
      What is there to say about David Haye? At this point his just little brothers left overs. Why would Big brother want little brothers left overs? If you notice, the guys that get a rare 2nd opportunity in life to fight a Klitschko have to earn their shots. Tony Thompson and Sam Peter got an opportunity that very few ever get but that's because they had to earn their way back up to a title shot. Which meant fighting multiple opponents and beating them in impressive fashion.

      What Haye is trying to do is leap frog above fighters more deserving than him just because he KOed a guy that Big brother badly beat. He wants money, I don't blame him, the money is with the brothers. But can he beat Adamek? or Povetkin? or even Arreola? LOL based on his skill set I seriously doubt it.
      peter beat nagy aguilera & thompson beat maurice harris...chisora beats both of them & he should have got the nod over helenius & thats why chisora got a title shot. injured or not vitali had problems with chisora & couldn't get him out of there. haye destroyed him. i'm thinking maybe you need to do a little more homework...

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      • Earl-Hickey
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        #23
        Originally posted by joe strong
        peter beat nagy aguilera & thompson beat maurice harris...chisora beats both of them & he should have got the nod over helenius & thats why chisora got a title shot. injured or not vitali had problems with chisora & couldn't get him out of there. haye destroyed him. i'm thinking maybe you need to do a little more homework...
        People also forget that Haye generates a lot of interest.

        nobody gives a **** about Vitali fighting Charr, and who's Wlad fighting, oh yeah, Wach.

        Seriously, i had to think for a minute there.

        Haye vs Either of them, it's news. It's buzz, it's MONEY for both sides.

        People pretending to take a "moral" stance, just don't like Haye, that's all it is.

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        • D-MiZe
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          #24
          Originally posted by Earl Hickey
          He did.

          By blasting out Chisora, who went the 12 with Vitali and gave him his toughest fight in years and schooled Helenius.

          Does Haye really need to bash up the Adameks and Charr's of this world?

          Or do you want him to go the Arreola route? Lets get Nagy Aguilera, and Kendrick Releford in there for Haye to earn his shot

          Just make the damn fight it's #2 vs #3 in the division and everyone knows it.
          Chisora has proven himself a good loser at world level.

          Made his name off the controversial decision to Helenius, good performance against Vitali. Who's his best win? Sam Sexton.

          As I said, Vitali is off after Charr so that leaves Wlad. Will Wlad just offer Haye a rematch or make him work for it this time 'round?


          Arreola > Adamek > Klitschko

          If a Klitschko is not available, fight Povetkin/Chambers/Johnson.

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          • joe strong
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            #25
            Originally posted by B.wayne17
            Vitaly will ride into the sunset after destroying Charr. His legacy is already secure and he doesn't need Haye. He will go on to be an instrumental political leader in the Ukraine when he hangs his gloves up.
            his legacy is only secure in klitschko fans eyes but his resume & level of opposition is still in question. no signature win, lost to the 2 best guys he faced, never beat any of the best guys in his era(been around since mid 90s). if you need a list it can be done...he never even beat any of the big 3 of the 90s(tyson, lewis, holyfield), maskaev, rahman, tua, ruiz, bowe, golota, brewster, haye, oquendo, mccline, botha, toney, moorer, mercer, etc...too many names left off the list who were active. he instead took on featherfisted punchers who couldnt hurt him like herbie hide, vaughn bean, larry donald, sosnowski, etc...

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            • Wesker115
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              #26
              Have we got any Ukranians in here?
              Has Vitali actually got any chance of being elected as mayor or into parliament?

              Haye will surely be at the fight and I fully expect him to crash the post fight conference and beg for this fight.

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              • Earl-Hickey
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                #27
                Originally posted by D-MiZe
                Chisora has proven himself a good loser at world level.

                Made his name off the controversial decision to Helenius, good performance against Vitali. Who's his best win? Sam Sexton.

                As I said, Vitali is off after Charr so that leaves Wlad. Will Wlad just offer Haye a rematch or make him work for it this time 'round?


                Arreola > Adamek > Klitschko

                If a Klitschko is not available, fight Povetkin/Chambers/Johnson.
                Chisora's best win is Helenius.

                Seriously, it's one of the best examples of Robbery, ROBBERY not "gift decision" in recent memories.

                The KO victory over him placed Haye in at #4 with The Ring and Boxrec ratings, higher than all those guys you mentioned, except Averagemek, who NOBODY wants to see ever fight a Klitschko again.

                Arreola, Adamek, Chambers (cruiserweight now) and Johnson (just lost to Tor hamer in prizefighter of all things.) are all irrelevant.

                TBH i'd Prefer Haye to fight Price, Wilder, Fury, Boytsov or Mitchell

                I'm sick and tired of those other guys, Haye is the only one of the "old guard" that i'm interested in.

                But it's undeniable, Haye is the only real money fight out there for the Klitschkos right now, if they want to make some money they will fight him.

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                • D-MiZe
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Earl Hickey
                  Chisora's best win is Helenius.

                  Seriously, it's one of the best examples of Robbery, ROBBERY not "gift decision" in recent memories.

                  The KO victory over him placed Haye in at #4 with The Ring and Boxrec ratings, higher than all those guys you mentioned, except Averagemek, who NOBODY wants to see ever fight a Klitschko again.

                  Arreola, Adamek, Chambers (cruiserweight now) and Johnson (just lost to Tor hamer in prizefighter of all things.) are all irrelevant.

                  TBH i'd Prefer Haye to fight Price, Wilder, Fury, Boytsov or Mitchell

                  I'm sick and tired of those other guys, Haye is the only one of the "old guard" that i'm interested in.

                  But it's undeniable, Haye is the only real money fight out there for the Klitschkos right now, if they want to make some money they will fight him.
                  Helenius has hardly beaten great competition.

                  Fights with Price, Wilder, Fury will never happen. Boystov is too risky, no reward and Mitchell is the same but higher chance of splattering Haye.

                  The Klitschkos make money whoever they fight, Haye needs them more.

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                  • Earl-Hickey
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by D-MiZe
                    Helenius has hardly beaten great competition.

                    Fights with Price, Wilder, Fury will never happen. Boystov is too risky, no reward and Mitchell is the same but higher chance of splattering Haye.

                    The Klitschkos make money whoever they fight, Haye needs them more.
                    I dont think either of them "need" the other, The Klitschkos have got 100 million plus, Haye will have 20-30 million in the bank. they could all retire right now and live out their days in luxury.

                    I'm just interested in seeing the best fights, to me Haye vs Vitali is very interesting.

                    If I have to see Haye fight someone else, Arreola or Adamek would be the only two that are do-able.

                    Personally I think Haye splatters the pair of them inside 8 rounds,

                    Arreola just far too hittable, I mean he doesn't even block punches with gloves Like Chisora did, he just plods in throwing wide looping shots, in the EXACT same manner that Chisora got KTFO doing (and chisora has got AT LEAST as good a chin) Sure, Arreola might land a few of those wide shots, but he's going to be taking too many to land them, and Arreola's power is overrated, he couldn't hurt Adamek, who showed in the Vitali fight he is NOT durable at heavyweight

                    Adamek, he shouldn't be at heavyweight, real good cruiser, but just doesnt function well at heavyweight. Can only beat slow guys like the one above^^^^
                    Last edited by Earl-Hickey; 09-04-2012, 07:27 AM.

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                    • Daddy T
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                      #30
                      haye vitali is the biggest potential fight at heavyweight in the foreseeable future end of.

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