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  • nachorjj
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    #11
    I'm from Argentina and I don't think that Golovkin can beat Ward or Dawson, but yes Martinez because his poor defence and the intencity and power of Gennady

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    • The Hammer
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      #12
      Originally posted by project xxx1
      LOLOL.....who the hell said he would beat Dawson or Ward??
      Dawson and Ward are probably too big for him, but I'd bet my shirt GGG would KO Floyd.

      Golovkin is a small middleweight, close to the same height and reach as Mayweather.

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        #13
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Absolutely agree.

        Golovkin's a good fighter but he's done nothing to suggest he's the best at MW. Nothing at all.

        As you put it, his best win is against a guy who's 1-1 with Kerry Hope.


        i liked what i saw in there...he hasn't done anything to suggest he's the best but if given the chance, i think he can make some MAJOR noise...he's got tremendous power, a wicked jab and a very methodical approach

        not to get too far ahead of myself but i think he gives any MW out there trouble...Sergio and Jr included

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        • Cap'n Crunch
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          #14
          He looked great, would like to see him in there with better competition, a lot of great fights may be on the horizon.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #15
            Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
            i liked what i saw in there...he hasn't done anything to suggest he's the best but if given the chance, i think he can make some MAJOR noise...he's got tremendous power, a wicked jab and a very methodical approach

            not to get too far ahead of myself but i think he gives any MW out there trouble...Sergio and Jr included
            I think he's looks good but it's easy to look good against the calibur of fighter he's facing.

            To be honest, he didn't impress me at all against Ouma.

            I'll wait until he steps up before I judge him. I'd like to see him fight Geale or Quillen.

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              #16
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              I think he's looks good but it's easy to look good against the calibur of fighter he's facing.

              To be honest, he didn't impress me at all against Ouma.

              I'll wait until he steps up before I judge him. I'd like to see him fight Geale or Quillen.


              true but i didn't think Proska was complete bum either

              US debut, first HBO fight...coulda easily looked like crap but stepped up big time

              as far as Kasim, hard to look good against that guy to begin with...he's one of those guys...like Soliman...unless you flatten him, you're not gonna really look that impressive


              i remember Ouma making a prime Jermain Taylor look like **** too



              and yes, Dan...as you can tell, im ready to jump on the wagon

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              • IronDanHamza
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                #17
                Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
                true but i didn't think Proska was complete bum either

                US debut, first HBO fight...coulda easily looked like crap but stepped up big time

                as far as Kasim, hard to look good against that guy to begin with...he's one of those guys...like Soliman...unless you flatten him, you're not gonna really look that impressive


                i remember Ouma making a prime Jermain Taylor look like **** too



                and yes, Dan...as you can tell, im ready to jump on the wagon
                Proska not a bum but he is a guy who's 1-1 with Kerry Hope. I don't think beating him is overly impressive. He did what he had to do and it's a start but it's nothing to shout about.

                You're right about Ouma, he's a spoiler but he had a losing record in his last 6 or 7 fights going into the fight with Golvokin and he looked truly awful in his last few fights before that.

                I think you're jumping on the wagon too early I'll join you when he performs at that level when he fights at the top level. I've seen fighters look like ATG potential at his level but look no better than C class at the top level. I know you have too.

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                • King_
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  Superb timing, good balance, footwork, I liked his jab & I think his defense is better than its given credit for.

                  The thing is we need to keep it real, Proksa is tough & hes tricky, his footwork and angles are unorthodox, I thought he landed some good counterpunches actually but the guy simply is not very good. He is scrappy, he leaves himself off balance, his defense is poor though he gave Golovkin some problems until he stopped moving his head & you have to take into account his opposition.

                  Forget the faded Sylvester this guy has fought & struggled with 3-4 fight novices. Outside of the above the best opponent he has faced is Kerry Hope who he is 1-1 with, who is Kerry Hope? A domestic scene gatekeeper with a 4% K.O ratio....

                  Reality is this was a mismatch and I said that & said Golovkin brutalises him inside 6, I think most expected it tbh

                  Should we not wait for Golovkin to fight a live threat at least before saying he beats Dawson, Ward, Sergio, etc?

                  This is like the whole boxing world raving because a guy beat like Peter Manfredo or something.
                  Believe me Proksa is not on Macklin/Barker/Murray/Lees level
                  Funny you mention that, because besides Andy Lee..........Peter Manfredo is just about the best fighter Chavez Jr beat, and according to most people, JCC Jr is the next P4P King and gets all the hype in the world. Go figure.

                  'Should Golovkin not wait for a live threat before saying he beats Dawson, Ward, Sergio".........well.....JCC Jr came off an Andy Lee win, who is about the same class as Proska, oh and he also had one loss which he avenged...... yet he's ready and earned a fight with Sergio. But not Golovkin?


                  Oh, the irony........
                  Last edited by King_; 09-02-2012, 05:36 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Proska not a bum but he is a guy who's 1-1 with Kerry Hope. I don't think beating him is overly impressive. He did what he had to do and it's a start but it's nothing to shout about.

                    You're right about Ouma, he's a spoiler but he had a losing record in his last 6 or 7 fights going into the fight with Golvokin and he looked truly awful in his last few fights before that.

                    I think you're jumping on the wagon too early I'll join you when he performs at that level when he fights at the top level. I've seen fighters look like ATG potential at his level but look no better than C class at the top level. I know you have too.


                    too bad Pirog pulled out...that would have been a good fight to watch last night


                    and you're probably right...i've been boxing-deprived for a while now...finally get to see a fight on HBO and it got me excited...been a good long minute

                    i'd like to see him on there again against stiffer competition...i think the skills are there...it was similar to when i first saw Martinez against Bunema...i thought to myself 'this dude can make some noise in this division'

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
                      too bad Pirog pulled out...that would have been a good fight to watch last night


                      and you're probably right...i've been boxing-deprived for a while now...finally get to see a fight on HBO and it got me excited...been a good long minute

                      i'd like to see him on there again against stiffer competition...i think the skills are there...it was similar to when i first saw Martinez against Bunema...i thought to myself 'this dude can make some noise in this division'
                      I'd love to have seen the Pirog fight. I think Pirog's a good fighter also. I picked him to beat Danny Jacobs. That's feel's like so long ago now.

                      I get the same feeling. August was so slow! I don't know if it's being shown in America but you should try and catch the Ricky Burns-Kevin Mitchell fight on the 22nd of September. Shouldn't be a barnburner but it should be a decent fight.

                      As for Golovkin, I'm not saying he's a hype job. I do think he's good, he has skills and power. But, I don't think he's as good as a lot of people think he is, at this point.

                      I'm going to wait until he steps up. I think the Geale fight is the logical fight to have next.

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