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  • #91
    Originally posted by blowblow View Post

    he needed the referee to let him elbow pac many times without giving him a warning.. also his father knows they were behind on points but still the paid judges did their work..
    Whatever you need to tell yourself but the truth is that Floyd EASILY beat your hero and your undying man love will never change that.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by just the facts View Post

      Whatever you need to tell yourself but the truth is that Floyd EASILY beat your hero and your undying man love will never change that.
      pac didn't get beat. pac outlanded your hero with cleaner punches.. you must be scoring the fight from hugging, running and clinching.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by blowblow View Post

        pac didn't get beat. pac outlanded your hero with cleaner punches.. you must be scoring the fight from hugging, running and clinching.
        You can tell yourself that lie every day for the rest of your life if you choose but it flat out didn't happen that way.

        16 out of the 18 media outlets that covered the fight scored for Floyd (the other two somehow scored it a draw). The biggest Floyd hater/Manny lover on HBO (Lampley) scored the fight for Floyd. The biggest Floyd hater/Manny lover on NSB (Pac-Boy) scored the fight for Floyd. Not one CREDIBLE boxing publication, analyst, or expert scored the fight for Manny, not one! If the fight were close at all (it wasn't) you just gotta know Arum and Roach would have screamed robbery. They didn't.

        Why is all this? Simple, Floyd EASILY beat your hero and your undying man love will never change that.

        Do you really believe you're right and everyone else is wrong?

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        • #94
          Originally posted by just the facts View Post

          You can tell yourself that lie every day for the rest of your life if you choose but it flat out didn't happen that way.

          16 out of the 18 media outlets that covered the fight scored for Floyd (the other two somehow scored it a draw). The biggest Floyd hater/Manny lover on HBO (Lampley) scored the fight for Floyd. The biggest Floyd hater/Manny lover on NSB (Pac-Boy) scored the fight for Floyd. Not one CREDIBLE boxing publication, analyst, or expert scored the fight for Manny, not one! If the fight were close at all (it wasn't) you just gotta know Arum and Roach would have screamed robbery. They didn't.

          Why is all this? Simple, Floyd EASILY beat your hero and your undying man love will never change that.

          Do you really believe you're right and everyone else is wrong?
          they were paid ! all of them ! flo mosexycasuals ! floyd was 160 fight night by my estimation therefore pacman 9 division champ !
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          • #95
            Originally posted by FIGHTING_FLIP View Post
            id love to hear one from lil floyd
            I'm sure he's did one but he's not honest. Just blows own trumpet.
            On most difficult opponent "to be frank no opponent was difficukt" are kind of replies from floyd

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            • #96
              Originally posted by just the facts View Post

              You can tell yourself that lie every day for the rest of your life if you choose but it flat out didn't happen that way.

              16 out of the 18 media outlets that covered the fight scored for Floyd (the other two somehow scored it a draw). The biggest Floyd hater/Manny lover on HBO (Lampley) scored the fight for Floyd. The biggest Floyd hater/Manny lover on NSB (Pac-Boy) scored the fight for Floyd. Not one CREDIBLE boxing publication, analyst, or expert scored the fight for Manny, not one! If the fight were close at all (it wasn't) you just gotta know Arum and Roach would have screamed robbery. They didn't.

              Why is all this? Simple, Floyd EASILY beat your hero and your undying man love will never change that.

              Do you really believe you're right and everyone else is wrong?
              that 2 out of 18 are the ones who really watched the fight opened eye and opened mind. rewatching the fight closely isn't that hard to give time if you really want to see the true result.. you just got a biased opinion coz it was held in floyd's backyard. see how his father told him he's fighting scared and behind on points? you are not deaf aren't you?

              floyd can't even show his real weight that night.. so controversial isn't it? why would you hide it in the first place especially if the fight was the biggest fight ever that night..
              Last edited by blowblow; 04-17-2021, 09:42 AM.

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              • #97
                its true - manny did outland floyd by a fairly significant margin. I personally didnt need slow motion to see this, but slow motion videos are there and demonstrate this fact very conclusively. After 6 years, i still havent seen floyd fans properly address how floyd won even 7 rounds if he was outlanded in about 10 of them.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by blowblow View Post

                  that 2 out of 18 are the ones who really watched the fight opened eye and opened mind. rewatching the fight closely isn't that hard to give time if you really want to see the true result.. you just got a biased opinion coz it was held in floyd's backyard. see how his father told him he's fighting scared and behind on points? you are not deaf aren't you?

                  floyd can't even show his real weight that night.. so controversial isn't it? why would you hide it in the first place especially if the fight was the biggest fight ever that night..


                  Nice sig - compubox probably counted that as +2 for floyd.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Toyman View Post
                    its true - manny did outland floyd by a fairly significant margin. I personally didnt need slow motion to see this, but slow motion videos are there and demonstrate this fact very conclusively. After 6 years, i still havent seen floyd fans properly address how floyd won even 7 rounds if he was outlanded in about 10 of them.
                    they also counted the hugging, running, clinching and elbowing. they converted it to punches..

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                    • Originally posted by MRBOOMER View Post
                      Erik MORALES

                      In his prime, and even as his hall-of-fame career began to wind down, there was no better elite-level warrior than Erik Morales. Few fighters of the past 20 years were as consistently entertaining against the sports best as the Tijuana native, who produced fight-of-the-year ring wars and instant-classic trilogies with fellow first-ballot hall of famers Marco Antonio Barrera and Manny Pacquiao.

                      Following a 2-year retirement, Morales won a hard-fought 12-round decision over former lightweight beltholder Jose Alfaro in a welterweight bout this past March. Sadly, the speed, power and reflexes that aided El Terrible in winning his first 41 professional bouts -- a nine-year win streak that included victories over seven titleholders, including Barrera and Junior Jones -- were gone.

                      However, the fierce pride and warrior spirit -- intangibles that made the Mexican star special -- remain, as evidenced by a recent interview Morales (49-6, 34 knockouts) gave ******.com after a Los Angeles press conference announcing his second comeback fight against Scotlands Willie Limond (33-2, 8 KOs) in a pay-per-view-televised bout Saturday from Mexico City.

                      Morales, 34, agreed to take part in ******.coms Best Ive faced series, the periodic feature that asks the most-accomplished fighters of our generation to list the best they've fought in 10 important categories. The former three-division titleholder had a difficult time with the first category, Best Fighter.

                      The obvious choice is either Barrera or Pacquiao, two arguably great fighters who Morales beat in the first bouts of their trilogies but lost the following two fights to each. However, the salty veteran refused to bestow that honor on either man. El Terrible takes his rivalries seriously.

                      In this way, Morales is no different from Joe Frazier, who resents Muhammad Ali to this day, or Marvelous Marvin Hagler, who maintains that he won his showdown with Sugar Ray Leonard.

                      What do you mean by that question, Whos the best fighter? Morales asked through interpreter Ricardo Jimenez. Are you talking about the most complete fighter? The best skilled?

                      All of the above, this writer replied. A second later a fan who attended the press luncheon at downtown L.A.s El Paseo restaurant blurted out in Spanish: Come on, Terrible! You know its Barrera!

                      Nah, f___ him, Morales told the man.

                      If you believe the animosity between Morales and Barrera was contrived to sell tickets, think again.

                      Ask the other questions, Morales said after silencing the fan. Well come back to this one.

                      Morales was happy to answer the other categories:

                      Best boxer: Junior Jones -- This is a tough question. I faced a lot of good boxers in my career, but I think Jones might be the best. He had very good technique. He threw straight, accurate punches. He could punch too. He hurt me in our fight.

                      Best puncher: Jones -- I really felt it when he connected. I remember freezing for a second in the second round of our fight when he caught me with a right hand.

                      Quickest hands: Pacquiao -- Pacquiao had the quickest hands. Jones was faster with single punches from the outside, but Pacquiao could deliver four or five quick, short punches in combination in the blink of an eye. Both guys had the kind of speed that you couldnt see.

                      Quickest feet: Hector Acero-Sanchez -- He kept running or walking around the ring the entire fight. I never knew where he was going or what he was going to do. I just wanted to fight. It was a frustrating night.

                      Best defense: Acero-Sanchez -- I had a hard time finding him. He kept his gloves up and he never stopped moving in and out and around me.

                      Best chin: In-Jin Chi -- That was one very tough guy. I should have knocked him out with the number of hard punches I landed to his chin, but he just kept coming forward all night. He was strong and he had great conditioning.

                      Best jab: Zahir Raheem -- Everything he did was off his jab. That was his key punch. He was all about the jab, and that jab gave me trouble.

                      Strongest: Pacquiao -- Often guys who are as muscular looking as he is arent that strong in the ring, but he is strong. Very strong. Chi was physically strong, too. He had the strength to push me around and wrestle with me on the inside, but Pacquiao was more explosive. He is a very powerful man in the ring.

                      Smartest: Raheem -- I never liked the way he fought and I didnt like that fight for me. I knew it would be difficult. I didnt have the best camp for Raheem, but even if I had had a great camp, he would have been frustrating because hes so cagey.

                      When it was time for Morales to answer the Best fighter category he was still clearly uncomfortable with the question.

                      If youre talking about the toughest opponent Ive faced, to be honest, his name was Erik Morales, he said in all seriousness. When I did things the right way and had proper training, boxing was easy for me, but all too often I did not do that. So, as you know, I had a lot of struggles.

                      Honestly, I had too many tough fights to say one man was tougher than all the rest. I know fans want me to say that it was either Barrera or Pacquiao, but I dont see it that way. Thats not how a fighter views things. There are fighters who people have forgotten about or never knew that were the toughest fights, the biggest fights for me at the time I fought them.

                      Jose Pepillo Valdez was the toughest fighter I had ever faced back when I was nothing. That fight [TKO 3 in 1994] was the biggest fight for me when I was just a Tijuana prospect.

                      Enrique Jupiter (TKO 6 in 1995) was the toughest I faced when I moved on to the next level and was regarded as one of Mexicos best young fighters. I had to beat him in order to show that I was going to go somewhere in boxing.

                      Daniel Zaragoza, the old champion I beat a week before I turned 21, was the toughest fighter I faced when it was time for me to prove that I could be a Mexican star in the United States. He was by far the toughest and most skilled fighter I had faced at the time. By beating him [KO 11 in 1997], I proved that I could fight any style and that I could be a real champ.

                      Junior Jones (TKO 4 in 1998) was my biggest fight when it was time for me to prove that I could go to the next level, from a champion to one of the fighters rated pound for pound. And from then on it was just tough fight after tough fight.

                      My fights with Barrera and Pacquiao are among those tough fights, but I dont see them as being any more special than my tough fights with (Wayne) McCullough, (Guty) Espadas, Chi, (Jesus) Chavez, (Carlos) Hernandez and (David) Diaz. Ive had so many wars I forget some of them. You or anyone else can probably put together a Top 20 list of my toughest fights.
                      non **** kisses. Happy to read you very knowledgeable post

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