Comments Thread For: Arum: Pacquiao Back in December, Cotto Terms Needed

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Everyone including members of Pac's team have sad Bob Arum is the reason. You can NOT refute this so don't even try. It is a well known fact and common knowledge in the boxing world. Only fan boys such as yourself think Bob is not the issue. You guys LOVE to ignore the fact that Bob has been in the business for decades... when he wants a fight, he makes the fight.

Okay, got that. Most members of the media, including ESPN journalists, boxing writers and everyone else have said that Mayweather is scared of Pac, and is ducking. You can NOT refute this so don't even try.

Now can you please explain how Bob Arum is responsible for Mayweather wanting 100% PPV, or no deal?

If you were Pac would you take that deal? 0% PPV?

When you're fair, you start to see things more clearly.

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Wess has an undying hatred for Bob Arum, that's perfectly clear.

But what we don't get is when Bob Arum isn't even part of the reason the fight is not being made, why keep talking about him? Let me ask you a question, is BOB ARUM the reason Floyd offered 0% PPV, a ridiculous offer that even you could admit, being the biggest Mayweather sniffer in the world?

Bob Arum has nothing to do with FLOYD offering 0% PPV, so you repeatedly bringing him up is kinda ******ed when you think about it.

Actually Arum does have something do with that. Its the reason why he offered 0% PPV. I believe he wanted Manny to leave Arum and then a deal could made. I remember that much. Floyd has actually said it a lot of times that if Manny left Arum then this fight would have happened awhile ago. Then he goes on about how Arum puts TR fighters against TR fights so he can keep all the money in his own house and ect...

[Perro]

Actually Arum does have something do with that. Its the reason why he offered 0% PPV. I believe he wanted Manny to leave Arum and then a deal could made. I remember that much. Floyd has actually said it a lot of times that if Manny left Arum then this fight would have happened awhile ago. Then he goes on about how Arum puts TR fighters against TR fights so he can keep all the money in his own house and ect...

What does Pac being with Bob Arum have anything to do with him offering 0% PPV?

So you're saying Pac has to dump Bob Arum and now Mayweather will play nice? Where's the logic in that?

People called it months ago, and now it's becoming a reality it seems. New Floyd demands "Leave Arum or no fight!" --- "154 or no fight!"

[WESS]

Floyd wanted Cotto when Cotto needed more fights under his belt.

Cool story bro but I stated no lies, not just my imagination ..here are the FACTS .... .:

You can say what you want about Arum but Arum knows boxing and knows promoting. That fight would have made more sense to be made around 2007 than 2005 as Floyd was more well known by then and so would Cotto be .... so the numbers would be much bigger.

As for Arum protecting Cotto ..... you are incorrect. Arum knew that Cotto needed more fights under his belt and knew that if someone can beat Floyd it can be a FUTURE Cotto not the 2005 version of him.

Arum - "The one guy that I can see beating Floyd is Cotto but not now (ie. not ready yet)" ..... At 2:40


Arum -"Cotto is young ... young fighters need to fight often ... the more they fight the more they LEARN"

Arum - Cotto vs Floyd may happen in a year or 1.5 years from now .... that will be a HUGE HUGE fight.

You are killing your own agenda by giving all those excuses... and now trying to say business was the reason the fight didn't get made. lol Such irony. When the fight was to be made, Bob didn't want it. Floyd left TR and Bob hasn't dealt with him since leaving. That is a fact. It's not a coincidence that very second Cotto leaves TR he gets the Mayweather fight. Or the very second Floyd leaves TR he gets the Hoya fight and the Hatton fight.

You can believe what you want. Just remember that even members of Pac's team have said Bob is the REAL problem from day one even when Pac had a 50-50 fight yet walked away. You can't refute that.... Like I said, when Bob is ready he will make the fight.

[WESS]

What does Pac being with Bob Arum have anything to do with him offering 0% PPV?

So you're saying Pac has to dump Bob Arum and now Mayweather will play nice? Where's the logic in that?

People called it months ago, and now it's becoming a reality it seems. New Floyd demands "Leave Arum or no fight!" --- "154 or no fight!"

Because Pac was with Bob Arum when the fight was 50-50...

[Perro]

Because Pac was with Bob Arum when the fight was 50-50...

Is Pac with Bob Arum when Floyd offered 0% PPV?

Okay, so we've gotten to the point where your typical cop-out response is "DURR ARUM IS TO BLAME."

But please tell me exactly HOW he is to blame. What is he physically doing that is preventing the fight? Please specify details, because I don't see how Arum is responsible for Floyd offering 0% PPV.

[WESS]

Okay, got that. Most members of the media, including ESPN journalists, boxing writers and everyone else have said that Mayweather is scared of Pac, and is ducking. You can NOT refute this so don't even try.

Now can you please explain how Bob Arum is responsible for Mayweather wanting 100% PPV, or no deal?

If you were Pac would you take that deal? 0% PPV?

When you're fair, you start to see things more clearly.

Bob owns the media and feeds them what he wants them to think. It's what happens when you're in the game as long as him and made the fighters he has made.

Also, 0% PPV or 50-50 Bob was with Pac and the fights didn't happen. Again, members from team Pac have even said Bob is the problem. Just look at the situation now, Cotto, Bradley JMM... No Mayweather.. Bob keeps saying next year etc etc etc.. Like I said, Bob has an agenda and when he's ready he will make the fight. He's been doing it for decades... you can't refute that.

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What does Pac being with Bob Arum have anything to do with him offering 0% PPV?

So you're saying Pac has to dump Bob Arum and now Mayweather will play nice? Where's the logic in that?

People called it months ago, and now it's becoming a reality it seems. New Floyd demands "Leave Arum or no fight!" --- "154 or no fight!"

He actually has been saying this since last summer that "Arum doesn't want this fight to happen". He just has bad blood with him. He said that Arum owes him 20 million dollars for fights he was never paid for. Its the same reason why TR won't work with GB. They just don't like each other and they refuse to work with each other. Why do you think all through out this year Arum pretty much says that the reason why this fight isn't happening is because they cannot come into an agreement instead of just coming out and flat out saying Floyd does not want to fight Manny? They used to say it back in the day but that song has changed with TR and Manny's camp. Floyd doesn't want to work with Arum just like Arum doesn't want to work with Oscar just like Oscar doesn't want to work with Arum. Boxing is more then just boxing. But yes, Floyd has been saying for like 2 years now that this fight could have been happened if TR wasn't Manny's promoter. Arum made it VERY clear that he will NEVER work with GB. Floyd at that time was co promoting with GB and they obviously planned to do with with the Manny fight.

[WESS]

Is Pac with Bob Arum when Floyd offered 0% PPV?

Okay, so we've gotten to the point where your typical cop-out response is "DURR ARUM IS TO BLAME."

But please tell me exactly HOW he is to blame. What is he physically doing that is preventing the fight? Please specify details, because I don't see how Arum is responsible for Floyd offering 0% PPV.

So now you are saying Bob WASN'T with Pac when Pac said no to 50-50?

[Perro]

So now you are saying Bob WASN'T with Pac when Pac said no to 50-50?

That's the point, why are you refuting points all the way back in 2009? Let's get with the times here.

How is Arum in any way shape or form responsible for Floyd offering 0% PPV?

How is Arum physically stalling this fight?