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  • res
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    #51
    Originally posted by pinpointsman
    Taekwondo is the worst martial art ever created.
    Karate is useless unless you mix it with a few other martial arts.
    You shouldn't speak in generalities about Martial arts unless you have comprehensive knowledge of those arts in all their forms . From your comment I feel safe concluding that you don't.

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      #52
      Originally posted by ThePunchingBag
      Olympic Taekwondo is so bad. It doesn't even come close to real fighting.

      It's the equivalent to competitive footsie. This is coming from a guy who studied TKD for 3 years after learning other Martials Arts.
      absolutely agree.

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      • Johnwoo8686
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        #53
        I would say boxing can hold up to almost any fighting style if you are good at it. Good defense, head movement, and footwork would cause a lot of problems for any opponent. The only type of style that could give an excellent boxer issues is probably wrestling. Once your opponent has you on the ground there is not much you can do as a boxer. Just ask James Toney.

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          #54
          Originally posted by littlemac
          Boxing is designed for the ring and not for real life. Boxing in the streets is as effective as taibo. Any military trained martial arts combatant would murder a pro boxer on the street or jungle.
          What a ****** post. You're speaking as though the average scrub who gets into a fight on the streets are military trained martial artists when you couldn't be further from the truth. Most street fights consist of a bunch of bums trying to tackle their opponent to the ground whilst throwing looping right hands.

          Regarding people who are trained combatants you're incorrect however you are overlooking the fact that they're taught mixture of martial arts. If they were to rely on one alone they'd be just as limited, alternatively if a boxer was to focus on other martial arts he'd have just as many advantages.

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          • croz
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            #55
            Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
            I would say boxing can hold up to almost any fighting style if you are good at it. Good defense, head movement, and footwork would cause a lot of problems for any opponent. The only type of style that could give an excellent boxer issues is probably wrestling. Once your opponent has you on the ground there is not much you can do as a boxer. Just ask James Toney.
            The idea would be to use footwork to maintain distance and strike at the opportune time. Outside of shooting for the take down the wrestler has a wide miss range. After all the wrestler is firing his whole body. If you can dodge a punch you can dodge that.

            Toney was practically said up. Dana and co knew his fighting style as a stationary boxer who plants his legs. If you don't move your legs you don't have a hope.

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            • krimzon
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              #56
              Take a boxer who can move and not get hugged by a wrestler and you have the best fighter on the planet. Boxing is the greatest.

              Prime Toney would've won by head choke if he wanted to.

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              • Earl-Hickey
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                #57
                traditional martial arts are a heap of garbage

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                • Japanese Boxing
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by pinpointsman
                  Taekwondo is the worst martial art ever created.
                  Karate is useless unless you mix it with a few other martial arts.
                  Karate has had a huge influence in european kickboxing....

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                  • loui_ludwig
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by fabie
                    Try Filipino Martial Arts of Kali, Escrima and Arnis....what we know as Western Boxing was really influenced by Filipino Boxing in the early 1900s. The pre-1900s boxing was like those old British Boxing type.

                    Please see Dan Inosanto, the legendary teacher and practitioner of Jeet Kune Do (Bruce Lee's only student who was certified in his Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do, The Tao of Jeet Kune Do and then some).

                    He is also a "learned" martial artist to have have trained with at least 30 Filipino's Bladed arts, boxing, wrestling....and with Muay Thai (under Master Chai Sirusite), have his own MaPhilIndo Silat (revival of the Majapahit Empire arts of Malaysian, FIlipino and Indonesian indigenious arts)..



                    Notice the fluidity of the Filipino Boxing Arts that influenced the Western Boxing....
                    I disagree with that. Suntukan/Panantukan never influence Western Boxing. What has become boxing today has evolve itself since it begun. There is no proof that FMA influence boxing.

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                    • loui_ludwig
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                      #60
                      Taekwondo has become a joke. Just look at what it has become today. Besides the fight point system, it has become a choreograph competition.

                      I like martial arts since i was a kid but didn't take it seriously cuz i was shy.

                      I have take a few days of muay thai training while on vacation in Phuket, Thailand. I had a hard time with kicking. Not due to the style itself but cuz of my age. I can't kick as high as i use to back then. And my right leg is weak when it comes to kicking. The boxing part was no problem.

                      Took 3 months of Brazilian jujitsu. Stop due to high fees. I can afford it but i joined this certain school because of the name/instructor. Unfortunately, its always the assistant(blue belt) that always instruct us. When i left, i told him he was my teacher/sensei. I also took a couple of months of grappling(combo of BJJ, Japanese jujitsu, judo, wrestling, and Sambo). I say BJJ/grappling is the hard. Its like a chess game. I always get tapped by smaller guys.

                      Judo, just tried it 1 day, didn't do much but i liked it. Didn't come back due to a new job.

                      I took karate as kid, don't know which style though. I didn't have no problem with it. I wish i continued it growing up.

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