Valuev Ruiz Weight Today

[Bozo_no no]

Finally an opinion, although hidden in another half-page essay. BTW, he cannot threated Marciano's record because he has 1 NC, so that takes care of that. Valuev deserves the shot at the title as much as Rahman deserved the shot at the title after his performance against Barrett. Just like Golota deserved 3 title shots. The list goes on. The fact that he is fighting for the title is a reflection of the overall state of the HW division but we will not go into that again, are we?

My opinion was evident from the 1st post I made in this thread. If you'd care to read and pay attention, you'd see the very 1st post I made is almost identical to what you hilited in the last quote of me you made. You just choose to jump back to the "What if" game.

Rahman beat Barrett. No way could that fight have been scored for Barrett.

Donald was the ONLY noteworthy name on Valuev's resume, and he lost but was benifited with a BS gift decision.

He doesn't deserve to be fighting for a title. Period.

It doesn't suprize me that he is, but don't try and tell me he deserves it.

[!!Captain]

My opinion was evident from the 1st post I made in this thread. If you'd care to read and pay attention, you'd see the very 1st post I made is almost identical to what you hilited in the last quote of me you made. You just choose to jump back to the "What if" game.

Rahman beat Barrett. No way could that fight have been scored for Barrett.

Donald was the ONLY noteworthy name on Valuev's resume, and he lost but was benifited with a BS gift decision.

He doesn't deserve to be fighting for a title. Period.

It doesn't suprize me that he is, but don't try and tell me he deserves it.

Never said that he deserves it, all I'm saying is that a lot of "challengers" to the title didn't deserve the shot either. Rahman's win was legit but totally pathetic.

[tonytucker]

Fair

No one is saying that Toney does not deserve the title shot. It is only fair that the great Valuev gets a title shot. It will be good to see too decent men fighting for the heavywieght title this time, as opposed to the no-good rotten **********s that we usually see.
Later brother brologs.

[Bozo_no no]

Rahman's win was legit but totally pathetic.

He won more rounds than Barrett. End of story. You can't say the same about Valuev in the Donald fight.

[!!Captain]

He won more rounds than Barrett. End of story. You can't say the same about Valuev in the Donald fight.

Didn't I just say it was legit? End of story, Bozo.

[PBDS]

This is what I'm talking about. This is what's wrong with the board. Someone who only posts on European fighters and then praises the gimmick called Valuev. Please, stay in the lounge.

...Nashy ol tard, my wife knows more about boxing than you. Stick to getting frat hazed and punked by team Fancy and you should be alright.

[Bozo_no no]

Didn't I just say it was legit? End of story, Bozo.

Then you see why it was a useless point to bring up when trying to defend Valuev getting an undeserved title shot.

If Valuev had beaten Donald in a pathetic looking fight (like the way Rahman beat Barrett), I might not have a problem with him getting a title shot in his next fight.

As it was, he was thoroughly outpointed by Donald, and got the classic German gift decision.

That's where my problem with him getting a title shot comes in. He should have lost that last fight, which coincidently was agaisnt the only contender he'd ever fought.

[!!Captain]

Then you see why it was a useless point to bring up when trying to defend Valuev getting an undeserved title shot.

If Valuev had beaten Donald in a pathetic looking fight (like the way Rahman beat Barrett), I might not have a problem with him getting a title shot in his next fight.

As it was, he was thoroughly outpointed by Donald, and got the classic German gift decision.

That's where my problem with him getting a title shot comes in. He should have lost that last fight, which coincidently was agaisnt the only contender he'd ever fought.

We have all seen worse decisions than that one. Ruiz got more gifts than anybody out there, maybe it's time for him to try his own medicine.

[Bozo_no no]

We have all seen worse decisions than that one. Ruiz got more gifts than anybody out there, maybe it's time for him to try his own medicine.

Again, Ruiz has beaten his fair share of contenders. Maybe he got a gift in the Golota fight, but he's beaten credible fighters in his career.

Valuev hasn't.

He lost to the only worth while contender he ever fought, and it WAS a bad decision.

I would call anyone who had that fight scored for Valuev an idiot. That's how bad it was. I had it 8-4 for Donald.

[!!Captain]

Again, Ruiz has beaten his fair share of contenders. Maybe he got a gift in the Golota fight, but he's beaten credible fighters in his career.

Valuev hasn't.

He lost to the only worth while contender he ever fought, and it WAS a bad decision.

I would call anyone who had that fight scored for Valuev an idiot. That's how bad it was. I had it 8-4 for Donald.

Ruiz has been a champion for number of years, Valuev is a contender. Of course he hasn't beaten the same level of competition.