Valuev Ruiz Weight Today

[Bozo_no no]

Ruiz has been a champion for number of years, Valuev is a contender. Of course he hasn't beaten the same level of competition.

The more you keep this up, the more you're showing that your only agenda here is to hiss at me from your firmly attached position on Valuev's nuts.

The point was, I had said I didn't think Valuev deserved this shot because he has 1 fight agaisnt a meaningfull contender, and he lost.

You tried to point out that Ruiz got a gift decision too.

I explained that was true, but that he has other credible wins.

Valuev doesn't. He had one fight agaisnt a meaningful contender, and he clearly lost it.

[!!Captain]

The more you keep this up, the more you're showing that your only agenda here is to hiss at me from your firmly attached position on Valuev's nuts.

The point was, I had said I didn't think Valuev deserved this shot because he has 1 fight agaisnt a meaningfull contender, and he lost.

You tried to point out that Ruiz got a gift decision too.

I explained that was true, but that he has other credible wins.

Valuev doesn't. He had one fight agaisnt a meaningful contender, and he clearly lost it.

I have better things to do than to hiss at you, please don't overestimate your importance.

Bozo, try to listen to what others say for once.
Can you quote me saying that Valuev clearly deserves the shot? I guess not. How am I a Valuev's nuthugger all of a sudden?

All I was saying is that in today's division almost everyone got either gift decisions or undeserved title shots. You tried to point out that Valuev doesn't deserve the title shot. I clearly (or so I thought) explained that that is true and expanded to say that division sucks overall so Valuev is getting no more than almost any HW out there.
I honestly don't understand what you are trying to argue about so this is my last post in this "round and round and round we go" discussion.

[Bozo_no no]

I have better things to do than to hiss at you, please don't overestimate your importance.

Bozo, try to listen to what others say for once.
Can you quote me saying that Valuev clearly deserves the shot? I guess not. How am I a Valuev's nuthugger all of a sudden?

All I was saying is that in today's division almost everyone got either gift decisions or undeserved title shots. You tried to point out that Valuev doesn't deserve the title shot. I clearly (or so I thought) explained that that is true and expanded to say that division sucks overall so Valuev is getting no more than almost any HW out there.
I honestly don't understand what you are trying to argue about so this is my last post in this "round and round and round we go" discussion.

You've been defending Valuev the whole time, and each time I point out flaws in your logic you change the subject.

I pointed out to you several times that your "everyone's got gift decisions, and no one really deserves a shot" logic is especially flawed with Valuev because he's fought NO ONE outside of Donald. You tried bringing up Rahman, Golota, Ruiz, and tried to point out how they've all got gift decisions and undeserved fights. For the 3rd time, they've all beat other contenders, Valuev hasn't.

He lost to the only worth while fighter he's ever fought, and has done NOTHING outside of that fight.

You've wasted enough of my time here.

[joeboxer]

I don't think Valuev has many Nuthugers, because no one is tall enough to reach his nuts