Andre Ward or Felix Sturm - Who's the worst homebody?

[Jack Napier]

Sturm is worse
at least Ward dominates all of his fights, so Oakland venue is moot
he doesn't need home cooking to save himself
Sturm has gotten some help from home officiating

[BattlingNelson]

Yes the fact being that all fighters won when they fought at home. But that doesn't mean at all that all fighters won because they fought at home. And that's what ur implying with your comment nd that's a logical fallacy.

It implies that it is much more difficult fighting in the opponents backyard. You are not likely to bring in your personal referee there.

[Kagami Taiga]

It implies that it is much more difficult fighting in the opponents backyard. You are not likely to bring in your personal referee there.

And Andre Wards' fights implies he didn't need a referee to win. So so much for that logic.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Because Oakland is known for all it's unfair decision's....

[Rip Chudd]

I stated a fact. There's no room for your interpretation.

I knew what you were implying, as did everyone else in this thread. Don't try to hide it, embrace your hate for Ward

[BattlingNelson]

And Andre Wards' fights implies he didn't need a referee to win. So so much for that logic.

You failed there. You gave an opinion. Not a fact.

[Kagami Taiga]

You failed there. You gave an opinion. Not a fact.

Oh? I did? So tell me, how did the refs influence his wins in the S6? Here comes the kessler butt hurt ppl. Lmao.

[Sweet Pea 50]

Give me FACT.

And not Kessler's ass whipping.

[elfag]

Are you ****ing kidding me? Ward won a tournament of the best of his division and has become the new lineal champion. He has fought all the best there is and has now been proven Bute was never on his level.


As for Sturm, a list of big names he has avoided over the last decade:

Hopkins
Taylor
Winky
Pavlik
Trinidad
Martinez
Williams
JCC Jr

Sturm hasnt done **** since beating DLH and has fought a bunch of cab drivers while 160 has been a hot division the last decade. I dont expect him to have fought all of those guys, but come one he didnt fight any of them. 160 has been hot and Bute has been over there in germany for 10 years fighting bums and needing gift wins at that.

Fighting in your hometown when you are fighting the best doesnt mean anything. Its fighting in your hometown when its against all bums that is the problem.

[elfag]

Lucian Bute.

This guy is pretty bad too. His biggest wins are over past their prime B level guys. Meanwhile he has been sitting out the super six, fighting stiffs and talking trash like he is on the level of the super six guys with many people buying into it. Him acting like he could beat Ward and then gets KTFO by the guy Ward just beat. Bute getting KTFO during his first step up to real competition was justice.