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  • #51
    both he & floyd are past prime. More so pac since he has more fights, more wars, & is a career lower weight fighter.

    Pac is a career 130 lb & under fighter. Usually those fighters dont fight at a elite level after 30 years of age. Its amazing what he was able to do past age 30.

    but yea, pac is on his way out. It doesnt help he doesnt want to hurt people anymore as he has stated several times. His religious ******ity & success ruined him also.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by JoeMan View Post
      Drug testing became a non-issue just right after the May/Mosley fight. Did the fight happen? No. Mayweather went on a looong vacation and was seen hanging out with Don King. Later, he was demanding $100 million.

      I agree with you. Manny should have called Floyd's bluff right away. Mayfeather would have been exposed early. It's so clear to me at that time that drug testing is not the only issue. It's also about the money. It's so strange to me at that time about GBP/Mayweather's deafening silence when Arum was inviting them on a tour at the Cowboy's stadium. The old man didn't have the slightest clue what they wanted. But I'm not going to recycle the unusual behavior of the guy they call Floyd da best during those times.

      It's over. Fight should no longer happen. Pacman is done. Blame whomever you want. I'm sure you'd agree with me that the fight should no longer happen.

      man come on. Manny never "agreed" to anything. All manny said was "there are no more issues with testing, but with purse split." thats not the same as "I agree to testing".

      Floyd wasn't bluffing dude and you know it. That deal was more than fair. Both fighters were to take tests. manny just didn't want to have to take OSDT. There is no justifying that.

      why would floyd go tour cowboys stadium? texas is not the most stringent place for drug testing nor do they allow xylocaine/lidocaine. Bob went there for Manny/clottey, not manny/floyd.

      fight should still happen. when anyone has a top 10 p4p list and manny isn't at 1 or2, his fans say he should be. so if you still think he is that good, then he isn't "done", so the fight should still happen.

      manny fans that say they dont want to see the fight anymore do so because they don't like watching manny fight as much as they like seeing manny win. its clear Manny still has issues with movement, countering, defense, and cutting off the ring. While he is good enough to beat Mosley and tim easily, JMM was a whole different story. SInce Floyd, is a faster, stronger, quicker, smarter, bigger JMM, with longer reach and better balance, you guys think manny will lose.
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 08-21-2012, 01:00 PM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by DTMB View Post
        both he & floyd are past prime. More so pac since he has more fights, more wars, & is a career lower weight fighter.

        Pac is a career 130 lb & under fighter. Usually those fighters dont fight at a elite level after 30 years of age. Its amazing what he was able to do past age 30.

        but yea, pac is on his way out. It doesnt help he doesnt want to hurt people anymore as he has stated several times. His religious ******ity & success ruined him also.
        pac is 4 years younger also.

        how come you say has "more wars" but everytime he fights you say he wins by wide margins. When was the last war he had?

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        • #54
          I concur.............

          Excellent post! I've been saying he's a Jr. welter this entire run he's on. That is what makes what he does, even more special. People try to downplay his historic run by using the word "catchweight" BUT you still have to be a special fighter to pull it off. The Cheeto he fought was STILL a very strong and dangerous fighter. You have to have ring smarts and great legs to dominate a fighter like him. Manny took the hardest body shot in the 4th round, came back and threw like a 10-punch combo to end the round. To do that, you have to be special. He been getting hit by these bigger fighters and he takes it and comes right back. The Manny/Marquez III fight wasn't his best offensive performance, but his defense had never been better. Outside of the single shots Marquez landed, Manny's defense was better than ever. The way he shoots a shot and then angles and completely goes to the other side of his opponent shows ring experience and maturity as a fighter. How come noone ever sees these little intangables? He displayed the same against Bradley for the first half of the fight. He came out and proved that he is still #er 1 until further notice. Bradley normally comes forward and trys to break his opponent down; and like every other Manny victom, by the end of the fight, they are fighting out of character. He's an all-time great and has nothing left to prove to anyone. He's a BAD dude man. Floyd has more to prove. He had the great and competitve fight with Cotto, who he thought was finished, now let's see him continue this pace by fighting fighters who actually belong in the ring with him. We all know he has the skill set, but Manny is much tougher and braver in my honest opinion.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
            pac is 4 years younger also.

            how come you say has "more wars" but everytime he fights you say he wins by wide margins. When was the last war he had?
            Its not the age of the car but how many miles you have on it.

            whose had more wars? whose had more fights?

            Floyd or Manny?

            thanks in advance.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
              this is pathetic excuse making at its finest. every excuse except , Manny doesn't know how to effectively cut off the ring when an opponent uses lateral movement.
              huh? wtf please don't respond to my posts you troll, everything is an excuse when it concerns Manny, you must really want to KILL the guy and see him dead and torture him. get a life

              There is no excuse the guy is done, he is also using that born again stuff for his political career. Tyson no longer had the primitive hunger too, Pacquiao lost it even other trainers said Pac lost what made him special it was that no mercy just violent angry style so relentless with no pity, now he just backs off and thinks he can win decisions.

              Remember the Boxing is not for killing famous quote of PAc after the margarito fight? please just stop

              Pac is done there is no excuse humans slow down especially when you take the type of beatings just to win fights like pac has, and his style is not defensive like Flyd or Hopkins those guys can fight in their 40s.

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              • #57
                There is always an excuse for manny

                ko;d 2 times-oh he was weight drained

                lose to morales-oh he was blood drained and had on the wrong gloves

                outboxed by jmm-oh he just underestimated him

                looks bad against good boxers-they ran and didnt wanna fight

                now its cause he just doesnt wanna hurt anyone??



                man get out of here with this crap damn

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by DTMB View Post
                  Its not the age of the car but how many miles you have on it.

                  whose had more wars? whose had more fights?

                  Floyd or Manny?

                  thanks in advance.
                  you didn't really answer what I asked you.

                  Manny has had more pro fights. i don't know which fights manny had that were "wars". Uhh JMM 1-2. what are the others? Manny has definitely been hit more than floyd. that because of his style and his lack of defense.

                  Again,

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                  • #59
                    styles make fights and he has been facing boxers who move since the margo fight..ill give you Mosley cause he simply didnt wanna fight...but there is no excuse for his performances against jmm and bradley where he looked far from impressive

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                      man come on. Manny never "agreed" to anything. All manny said was "there are no more issues with testing, but with purse split." thats not the same as "I agree to testing".

                      Floyd wasn't bluffing dude and you know it. That deal was more than fair. Both fighters were to take tests. manny just didn't want to have to take OSDT. There is no justifying that.

                      why would floyd go tour cowboys stadium? texas is not the most stringent place for drug testing nor do they allow xylocaine/lidocaine. Bob went there for Manny/clottey, not manny/floyd.

                      fight should still happen. when anyone has a top 10 p4p list and manny isn't at 1 or2, his fans say he should be. so if you still think he is that good, then he isn't "done", so the fight should still happen.

                      manny fans that say they dont want to see the fight anymore do so because they don't like watching manny fight as much as they like seeing manny win. its clear Manny still has issues with movement, countering, defense, and cutting off the ring. While he is good enough to beat Mosley and tim easily, JMM was a whole different story. SInce Floyd, is a faster, stronger, quicker, smarter, bigger JMM, with longer reach and better balance, you guys think manny will lose.
                      theres not much point in debating it to be honest. the fight is still highly unlikely to happen. mayweather was fairly clear when he said "40 mil, take it or leave it" and i dont think pacquiao is going to take that.

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