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  • #51
    Floyd offering zero PPV has nothing to do with Arum. You gotta be too ****** to blame the biggest fight of this century not happening to a promoter.
    Team Pacquiao walking away from 50/50 and blood tests have everything to do with Arum. Not wanting to fight on cinqo de mayo, deep cuts and stadiums have everything to do with Arum. The ridiculous offer of zero PPV and walking from the sport at opportune times is on Mayweather. So if people blaming promoters for fights not happening are ******, I guess it was our ****** imagination that Rock Newman played a big hand in scuppering one of the biggest heavyweight fight potentials of the last century.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
      They all cried Oscars too big for Pacman and now theyre crying weight drained. Ask yourself why's Floyd hesitant for the biggest payday. That's right, he's waiting Til Paman gets old. All in perfect timing..
      So Floyd is older than Pac and you're saying Floyd is waiting for Pac to get old? And yes everyone said ODLH would be too big for Pac, until everyone founf out about the weight stipulations. ODLH was fighting at 147 for the first time in 8 years and he had a rehydration clause in the contract. ODLH weighed in at 145, and the day of the fight ODLH was 147 and Pac was 148.5. ODLH was only allowed to rehydrate 2lbs over night. So I think the weight drained theory was correctly applied for this fight.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by RSBonos View Post
        Bradley in ring after the Pac fight finished before the decision was read:

        "Mayweather will never stop him"

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=bunr450r7Zw

        LOL
        I was about to post that. Bradley is trying hard to get a rematch but I don't think shit talking works on Pac.

        Originally posted by Garcia's Dad View Post
        if Manny is that easy, why doesn't Floyd just take 50/50, which would still make him significantly more than he does per fight now - and humiliate Manny and end the hype?

        Why isn't Floyd all over this fight? Making double what he does now, finish Manny, get one over Bob....
        He agreed to 50/50 but him and Pac couldn't agree on the OSDT. Welcome to 3 years ago.

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        • #54
          Bradley admits he's not on Floyds level everytime he talks about him. In heaping so much praise on Mayweather he make himself look weak.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Garcia's Dad View Post
            Oh, yes. Bob Arum made Floyd offer Manny a flat fee and no PPV % when the drug testing issue was resolved.

            It's like I've always said - if Manny is that easy, why doesn't Floyd just take 50/50, which would still make him significantly more than he does per fight now - and humiliate Manny and end the hype?

            Why isn't Floyd all over this fight? Making double what he does now, finish Manny, get one over Bob....

            Oh wait, he can't let Manny have a PPV percentage of one of the biggest fights ever.....you know, where he's one of the protagonists.

            Again, I will ask the question....

            Why isn't Floyd Mayweather all over this fight?
            Double he does now? This fight doesn't break 2 mil now and splitting it 50/50 instead of the 80% which is probably around what he takes from other fights means he doesn't make much more if any. Everyone has lost interest in the fight, Pacquiao needs a big win to get some interest back.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by trainhard_187 View Post
              They all cried Oscars too big for Pacman and now theyre crying weight drained. Ask yourself why's Floyd hesitant for the biggest payday. That's right, he's waiting Til Paman gets old. All in perfect timing..

              Little known fact: Floyd doesn't age.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
                He agreed to 50/50 but him and Pac couldn't agree on the OSDT. Welcome to 3 years ago.
                Welcome to 2012 where Manny has agreed on the OST and Floyd has decided to shift the goal posts when it comes to the split.

                You just made my point for me - Floyd previously agreed to 50/50 at a point where Manny was doing weaker numbers than he does now.

                Why throw another roadblock when he could back Arum into a corner and show the world how badly he wants a fight; a fight most people (including myself) think he would win.

                You've got them to accept OST, take the 50/50 (where you still make huge money), end the Manny train once and for all, get one over Bob....

                Again, I will ask the question I have asked many times....

                Why isn't Floyd jumping all over this fight?

                Because Manny doesn't deserve a share of the PPV?

                We all know Arum is holding the fight up - but why is Floyd?

                Originally posted by Own3d View Post
                Double he does now? This fight doesn't break 2 mil now and splitting it 50/50 instead of the 80% which is probably around what he takes from other fights means he doesn't make much more if any. Everyone has lost interest in the fight, Pacquiao needs a big win to get some interest back.
                Yes, double it. This fight still does giant numbers. It's lost interest for the hardcore fans but even those will pay.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Garcia's Dad View Post
                  Welcome to 2012 where Manny has agreed on the OST and Floyd has decided to shift the goal posts when it comes to the split.

                  You just made my point for me - Floyd previously agreed to 50/50 at a point where Manny was doing weaker numbers than he does now.

                  Why throw another roadblock when he could back Arum into a corner and show the world how badly he wants a fight; a fight most people (including myself) think he would win.

                  You've got them to accept OST, take the 50/50 (where you still make huge money), end the Manny train once and for all, get one over Bob....

                  Again, I will ask the question I have asked many times....

                  Why isn't Floyd jumping all over this fight?

                  Because Manny doesn't deserve a share of the PPV?

                  We all know Arum is holding the fight up - but why is Floyd?



                  Yes, double it. This fight still does giant numbers. It's lost interest for the hardcore fans but even those will pay.
                  Pacquiao's numbers haven't been officially released for some time now. We all know Bob Arum lies. Pacquiaos numbers will take a big hit now that he's lost too.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Own3d View Post
                    Pacquiao's numbers haven't been officially released for some time now. We all know Bob Arum lies. Pacquiaos numbers will take a big hit now that he's lost too.
                    OK, you're right, this fight does mediocre numbers. Not worth Floyd fighting at all, this fight does the numbers of the Ortiz fight.

                    You know, this is why I don't try to converse with fans who are aligned firmly to one side.

                    You guys are entrenched in your ideas, and are unable to think laterally.

                    Step back a second, liberate yourselves from having to defend one side, and see this for what it is; two people are holding this fight up - Arum and Mayweather.

                    Arum you can sort of understand because of his hostility towards Floyd, and knowing that Floyd would end the Manny era.

                    But why is Floyd holding this fight up? Why offer Pac such sh-t figures in such a hugely lucrative fight, when the only outstanding points to used to be OST - which is now resolved.

                    Would YOU throw another roadblock in negotiations (and a HUGE one) in a fight that you're such a favourite to win - and reap such great rewards (financially and legacy-wise) if you did?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Garcia's Dad View Post
                      Welcome to 2012 where Manny has agreed on the OST and Floyd has decided to shift the goal posts when it comes to the split.

                      You just made my point for me - Floyd previously agreed to 50/50 at a point where Manny was doing weaker numbers than he does now.

                      Why throw another roadblock when he could back Arum into a corner and show the world how badly he wants a fight; a fight most people (including myself) think he would win.

                      You've got them to accept OST, take the 50/50 (where you still make huge money), end the Manny train once and for all, get one over Bob....
                      How long after the initial negotiations did Manny say he agreed to OSDT? The first negotiations was the closest they came to making the fight happen. Everything was perfect, all the stars were aligned but somehow it fell through. After that they went their separate ways and showed little interest in further negotiations. Both fighters (and Arum) were simply disgusted by what happened and now they're bullshitting each other (Floyd making that bullshit no ppv offer and Pac asking Floyd to wait for the imaginary stadium to be built).

                      They tried their best to make it happen and they tried to be as fair as possible but it didn't work out, so now both guys are thinking "Fuck him! He needs me more than I need him, if we fight it'll be on my terms!"

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