The all new, Mayweather/Pac Master Discussion Thread - The fight that will never be.

[Rk16]

Nearly all failed?

Were you there during negotiations? No!

Those are negotiations so there are sometimes bumps in the road but the important thing is that they all fought without having to wait 3+ years to happen.

Try again!

Oscar threatened to walk away cos Pacquiao was looking for too much money,to the point Oscar went public and said Manny should learn from Floyd on how to negotiate
The Hatton fight was reported to be cancelled for a few days because Manny yet again was being too greedy
Cotto turned down the fight with Manny because of the catchweight until Arum offered him more money and they created the bull**** diamond title

These are facts!

[The Big Dunn]

At the end of the day, the question for Floyd will always be, "Do you want the fight or not?" If you do you do the right thing, not come up with all kinds of silly excuses. Reality now is that the timeline is going against Floyd, in case he's having second thoughts about it -- Pac has a fight in December. His fight next year is already set and he's most likely fighting Rios. Floyd would have to somehow find a way to insert himself in the timeline, beg for the Pac fight and be active in negotiating it if he doesn't want to end up looking like a scared chicken for the rest of his life. And that's the beauty of it for Pac fans. They will have the last laugh even without the fight happening. Hehe...

And that's is ultimately why bob and manny won't ever agree to a floyd fight. Because its better to call someone a chicken then fight them and lose. All the guys who foyd was supposed to be scared of corrales, mosley, hatton, cotto-all got there ass beat by floyd pretty easily. So yeah some of mannys fringe fanbase and floyd haters are gonna discredit him on NSB. That noise isn't going to keep him from the HOF or from making 40 mil.

Manny will ultimately fight floyd for far less than he wouldve made in dec 09. He will take osdt. And all his stalling will have been in vain. Each time manny fights another blown up tr jww his rep will continue to diminish.

[The Big Dunn]

Why are you trying to make out Pac is the bad guy with a hard to deal with reputation? Isnt it Floyd with the track record for his casual approach to getting fights made. Has Floyd treated his opponents better than Pac has done you saying, i think you better stop trying to twist things and make things up as you go along? Stop trying to defame Pac, like Floyd does by saying Pac is on PEDS!

Floyd being a pain in the backside to make a fight happen now is nothing new, its a patteren of behaviour he cant shake off. Dont make out Floyd is punishing Pac.....he isnt. He is punishing the public who want to see the fight. Pac has said he wants the fight cos the public want it and his son wants him to spank FLoyd.
Pac dont need Floyd, Floyd needs Pac for credibility regards his career.


Pac isnt just an opponent. He is the best opponent Floyd ever faced. People want to see the fight and they also want to see Pac so why dont Pac deserve the money? Floyd also said he came out of retirment to fight Pac so why is he putting barriers up still? Again, we know its Floyd holding up the fight. You know that as well, so why you still digging a bigger hole for yourself.

Haha.when it comes to floyd, Manny is like rudolph the red nose reindeer. He may have a shinny red nose, have songs and tv shows made about him, he can talk, and he is the at the frontr of the pack. But at the end of the day he's still just a reindeer. Hell get his feedbag when he stops acting like a ***** in his stable.

[The Big Dunn]

Nearly all failed?

Were you there during negotiations? No!

Those are negotiations so there are sometimes bumps in the road but the important thing is that they all fought without having to wait 3+ years to happen.

Try again!

Floyd has only had difficulty making a fight with manny. Manny has problems with floyd; cotto rematch and the jmm rematch. So who is really more difficult to make. Fight with? In fairness its probably bob just as much as manny. So tell manny to be a fickin man.

[hugh grant]

Floyd has only had difficulty making a fight with manny. Manny has problems with floyd; cotto rematch and the jmm rematch. So who is really more difficult to make. Fight with? In fairness its probably bob just as much as manny. So tell manny to be a fickin man.

The problem with floyd and whats hes famous for which you arent really addressing and are dodging is the fact that its hard for Floyd to say hes going to fight. Hard for him to decide who he wants to dare fight. Is it Canelo, Pac, Sergio or some champ who has lost 10 fights but is coming off of a nice win like Baldy, SSM or Miguel. Yes negotiations went alright with Cotto, but dont ignore the hardly little detail of retiring for 2 years and waiting for Pac to destroy him before eventually fighting him.

If he hasnt fought all year and its already November now, it dont bother Floyd. Its a problem for Floyd to let his fans see him fight, are you with me?

Pac fights regularly and hes almost has his next opponent named while hes still sweating having used Margarito or Miguel or JMMs as punch bags. Floyd is so indecisive about what he plans to do and he continuing his pattern of behavior to this very day with his will Pac be his next opponent or not games. I just hope when he is ordering food in McDonalds he isnt so indecisive with should i have a cheeseburger or fillet, the queues behind him would be annoyed as hell as well.

Floyd is holding up the fight with his being mean to Pac attitude and dont give a damn about the fans waiting type attitude . That is still the conclusion so why you still chit chatting?

[WESS]

Everyone knows Manny cannot beat Floyd with or without a drug test.


End of story.

The entire boxing community has been saying this for years. Bob even understands this. Which is why he doesn't want the fight until he exhausts all his options.

Why would he expose Pac vs a villain like Floyd? The magic of Pac's hype would be exposed. Fans want to see someone beat Floyd and when they realize Pac is (or never has been) the one to do it, they will move on and that cash flow Bob receives from this hype will be gone. Bad business move for Bob.

It's not too hard to see why Bob doesn’t make certain fights. At least Cotto understood this and left him and now makes more money than he ever has and even admits that Bob is liar, much like Bob admits himself.

However until the fight takes place, these little noob pactarted fanboys will continue on with the but but but but but Floyd.... When it's all said and done, like the fraudulent fans that they are will jump on the next band wagon of hype and claim Floyd is ducking this guy or that guy... Same **** different day. If you've been in the sport long enough, you would know these little pactarts are just a fad that give boxing a bad rep.

[The Big Dunn]

The problem with floyd and whats hes famous for which you arent really addressing and are dodging is the fact that its hard for Floyd to say hes going to fight. Hard for him to decide who he wants to dare fight. Is it Canelo, Pac, Sergio or some champ who has lost 10 fights but is coming off of a nice win like Baldy, SSM or Miguel. Yes negotiations went alright with Cotto, but dont ignore the hardly little detail of retiring for 2 years and waiting for Pac to destroy him before eventually fighting him.

If he hasnt fought all year and its already November now, it dont bother Floyd. Its a problem for Floyd to let his fans see him fight, are you with me?

Pac fights regularly and hes almost has his next opponent named while hes still sweating having used Margarito or Miguel or JMMs as punch bags. Floyd is so indecisive about what he plans to do and he continuing his pattern of behavior to this very day with his will Pac be his next opponent or not games. I just hope when he is ordering food in McDonalds he isnt so indecisive with should i have a cheeseburger or fillet, the queues behind him would be annoyed as hell as well.

Floyd is holding up the fight with his being mean to Pac attitude and dont give a damn about the fans waiting type attitude . That is still the conclusion so why you still chit chatting?

TBeing mean to pac. So what. When manny is mean to people you don't care so stop whining. Manny had two better offers than any other floyd opponent. He turned them down initially then after months of delay he said yes. So plese stop giving manny the benefit oif the doubt because hyou like him.

[al-Xander]

And that's is ultimately why bob and manny won't ever agree to a floyd fight. Because its better to call someone a chicken then fight them and lose. All the guys who foyd was supposed to be scared of corrales, mosley, hatton, cotto-all got there ass beat by floyd pretty easily. So yeah some of mannys fringe fanbase and floyd haters are gonna discredit him on NSB. That noise isn't going to keep him from the HOF or from making 40 mil.

Manny will ultimately fight floyd for far less than he wouldve made in dec 09. He will take osdt. And all his stalling will have been in vain. Each time manny fights another blown up tr jww his rep will continue to diminish.

Like I said, I still don't know what you're arguing about. You and your idol already got what you wanted. Fight didn't happen. It didn't matter to you whether Floyd gets the chance to beat Pacquiao and make hundreds of millions of dollars as long as Pacquiao doesn't get what he wanted. You already succeeded. You should be celebrating. You guys seem to relish Floyd winning in fantasy fights. Good for you.

[ADP02]

Everyone knows Manny cannot beat Floyd with or without a drug test.


End of story.

Unfortunately the Mayweathers feel differently. They got spooked the way Manny KOed Hatton and then the way big Cotto lost, it was the final nail in the coffin (see below comments by the Mayweathers)_

- "I don't want my son fighting Manny."

- "How can a guy go up from 106 to 147-150 and walk thru those bigger guys. Even Floyd Jr wasn't able to walk thru those guys!"

- "My health comes first!"

- Manny offered a split with the winner getting more.
Floyd's response "What if I lose?"

[ADP02]

Oscar threatened to walk away cos Pacquiao was looking for too much money,to the point Oscar went public and said Manny should learn from Floyd on how to negotiate
The Hatton fight was reported to be cancelled for a few days because Manny yet again was being too greedy
Cotto turned down the fight with Manny because of the catchweight until Arum offered him more money and they created the bull**** diamond title

These are facts!

Facts are that Manny fought all the fighters that you mentioned and it didn't take 3 years.

Floyd wants "ALL PPV MONEY" .... is that how things get done? lol!