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  • #31
    top 3 for sure

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    • #32
      JMM needs a couple of good wins. He is in my top 5 p4p for sure. An all time great IMO! He just needs some good BIG wins! Not controversial or almost close wins...Some without a doubt, wins

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      • #33
        Originally posted by MJ223 View Post
        JMM 4-1 2 ko's with Fendchenko and Ramos being merely tuneups

        Donaire 5-0 2 ko's

        Martinez 5-0 4 ko's

        With the Pavlik/Williams and Montiel wins being better then any W JMM was able to muster in that same stretch
        I'm guessing you mean official win. By that logic Bradley should be above Donaire and Martinez on your list.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
          JMM needs a couple of good wins. He is in my top 5 p4p for sure. An all time great IMO! He just needs some good BIG wins! Not controversial or almost close wins...Some without a doubt, wins
          because JMM OVERRATED... he Fights BUMS everytime... the only win JMM has that is a Hall of Fame Fighter is Barrera... n that was a ROBBERY... even Barrera said it was a Robbery.... JMM Fights BUMS all the time he should never be a Top 10 P4p Fighter

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          • #35
            Marquez is under Sergio but above Donaire imo....Floyd, Sergio, Marquez and Ward are the top dogs p4p imo....after Floyd you can place the other 3 anywhere from 2-4 and I won't have a problem with it

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            • #36
              I can't put Marquez above Pac no matter what though, even if you think he won the fights he would never beat Margarito (@150), Clottey, Mosley or Cotto @ 147.

              and since Pacquiao is the same size roughly as Marquez P4p it makes him greater.

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              • #37
                Ever since he left GBP and went to Top Rank. He fought Pac and became 0 for 3. Against Pac he didn't do enough to win the third fight. He let the 11th and 12th round slip away from him and didn't take the risk of landing anything big. In the last rounds of that fight. He has fought a bunch of tune ups ever since. Now he wants to fight Pac for a 4 time. For what, everybody is over the Pac vs Marquez thing 'its' time to move on. He's had his chances like the Buffalo Bills in the early 90's. He's had his chances agains't Pac and he blew it. No way the world wants to see Pac vs Marquez 4. I have him on my P4p list at 6.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
                  I'm guessing you mean official win. By that logic Bradley should be above Donaire and Martinez on your list.
                  A lot of ppl had Pac-Marquez 3 split for either guy...... It was a close fight that Pac got the nod in.... Pac-Bradley was pretty much unanimous for one guy

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by _original_ View Post
                    I have him at #2 behind Floyd, Martinez right at 3 and Ward and Bradley filling out the rest of the top 5. Donaire is an overrated ducker, who's best wins are tiny dudes.
                    Aren't you a Canelo fan???

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by RichCCFC View Post
                      I just don't get it personally, he's top 3.. 4 if you wanna put Ward above him but he's certainly better than Martinez and Donaire.

                      Anyone want to explain why they rank them above Juan?




                      I've been asking myself too for the longest! Its only on these internet forums where I believe people rate him below those guys you just mentioned.

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