Saul "Canelo" Alvarez Would UD Prime Julian Jackson

[#1Assassin]

JJ gets really underrated on this forum, ppl act as if he was the edison miranda of his time, a great puncher with no chin or boxing ability. truth is JJ had one of the best chins of his era, only at the end of his career did he lose his punch resistance similar to mayorga, vargas or RJJ. but at his peak his chin was granite.

he had some quality boxing skills too, like a meldrick taylor he always wanted to fight and often chose not to use his boxing ability but when he needed to he was a solid boxer. he was such a dangerous fighter not just bcuz of his power but his timing, accuracy, combination punching, bodypunching and handspeed. add an iron chin, good fighting IQ and a big heart to that and you have a beast of a fighter.

theres a reason he was a top p4p fighter for years and was at one point 46-1 with 44 KOs. ppl dont seem to realize JJ is one of the 3-4 best 154lbers in history, he is right up there with hearns, mccallum, norris, winky etc. what has canelo done to put himself on that level?

matter of fact i dont see anything canelo does better than jackson, not a single thing. handspeed, bodypunching, combination punching, powerpunching.. everything canelo does well JJ did better.

canelo is a great talent and might one day be good enought to be compared to fighters of jacksons caliber, but hes got a long way to go.

[New England]

"but uncle new england, how can you pick against canelo if you're a 'fan' of his."


what do the kids say these days?

jackson would - "whoop that trick?" -


the most important aspect of the style and ability of canelo, to the extent to which we know about the abilities of an untested 22 year old, is his lack of head movement. he does not move his damn head.

head movement is the most basic and important aspect of boxing with a puncher. you want to be a moving target so your opponent cant just haul off on you. more important than that, he doesnt FEEL like he can haul off on you, because he doesnt have a stationary object (your chin,) to target. if you're waiting for the punches to come against jackson to actually move your head it's going to be too late. if you're head is in the same place all the time it's eventually going to get smashed with a well timed right hand over your jab, or left hook between your gloves (two of jackson's best shots,) you need basic head movement and elusiveness. canelo doesnt look to be that sort of athlete. he's got a stiff torso and a flat base.

canelo is too much of a target to even hang with a puncher like jackson. the more i think about it, the less competitive i think it is. fifth or six rounds. KO. none of this ref stoppage ****. canelo on the ground.



and jackson is being overrated a bit it seems. it's canelo's style more than anything that leads me to believe that this is a mismatch. jackson is not a hall of famer or a great fighter. at his very best he was a very good jr MW, and one of, if not the hardest puncher of all time. very good. not great.


with either hand he could end a fight moving forward or backward, and with one punch only. he could throw twos or even threes, but he didnt need them to score the knockouts. guys didnt just go down, they lost consciousness. he used to point them to the ground as they fell. they were completely out. it's very rare to see a relatively world level opponent knocked out cold, but jackson would do it pretty regularly.

[kedashy]

gerald hit jackson right on the point of the chin and then finished him in the first fight which he was losing but, gerald had crunching power too... mccallum had heart and balls to stand at range with jackson and give it as well as take it... canelo can,t even be compared to either of those guys... close the thread...

[915angel]

gerald hit jackson right on the point of the chin and then finished him in the first fight which he was losing but, gerald had crunching power too... mccallum had heart and balls to stand at range with jackson and give it as well as take it... canelo can,t even be compared to either of those guys... close the thread...

he lose's to jackson but he beats that BUM lara

[MRBOOMER]

Canelo would easily KO him.

Your talking about Jackson right?

[Frank Ducketts]

Your talking about Jackson right?

That clueless moron probably thinks Canelo could ko Tito, Jermaine or Jesse, lmao!

[Hard Boiled]

Last night again proved it.

[Reported!]

Easy win for Canelo.