Is Manny Pacaquiao finished?

[The Big Dunn]

The sad thing is, that the dudes that are available can and will make him look bad in the ring, If I was Arum, I would try to find someone like Margo or Clottey, where PAC will look amazing, his moral has to be at an all time low.

Bob did this too much already. In retrospect maybe it was wise to stay away from Mosley. WHile manny dominated, it was clear that he still wasn't proficient at cutting off the ring and handling movement.

[bojangles1987]

No way I can say he's finished when he just beat the crap out of the best opponent he's fought since Cotto.

He's still a damn good fighter and a hard fight for anyone.

[The Big Dunn]

I agree.I believe Bradley beats him in a rematch and Floyd decimates him. Lately it looks like Manny only looks for the ko punch,but he doesn't have that type of power....I am not sure how his punch volume and stamina has slid in the matter of one fight...he seems real flat footed and slowed down compared to when he was fighting in Texas....strange.

I think if you take a look at Manny's actions in the aftermath of the OSDT request and his performances in Texas vs in Nevada, it definitely raises suspision regarding his possible use of PED's.

[The Big Dunn]

No way I can say he's finished when he just beat the crap out of the best opponent he's fought since Cotto.

He's still a damn good fighter and a hard fight for anyone.

Can't disagree with this post because I thought he beat Tim.

[damned1974]

I think if you take a look at Manny's actions in the aftermath of the OSDT request and his performances in Texas vs in Nevada, it definitely raises suspision regarding his possible use of PED's.

Pretty much my point...add that to the fact that he looked su****ious when asked to do randomized testing and it is not a good look at all.All the lies and excuses regarding the testing from Pac's camp were all disproved...I don't for one second doubt he was using,it is just a matter of when I believe he quit...my guess is after the Margarito fight-where he used illegal handwraps as well..

[PACnPBFsuck]

Bob did this too much already. In retrospect maybe it was wise to stay away from Mosley. WHile manny dominated, it was clear that he still wasn't proficient at cutting off the ring and handling movement.

They gotta do something, PAC just doesn't look like he wants to do this anymore, his body language is all wrong.

[The Big Dunn]

Pretty much my point...add that to the fact that he looked su****ious when asked to do randomized testing and it is not a good look at all.All the lies and excuses regarding the testing from Pac's camp were all disproved...I don't for one second doubt he was using,it is just a matter of when I believe he quit...my guess is after the Margarito fight-where he used illegal handwraps as well..

I think manny still deserves the benefit of the doubt because he has passed all the required testing. That said, the circumstantial and supporting eveidence is damaging, some of it, like trying to negotiate the specifc dates for testing, overwhelmingly suggests usage. I'm thinking Lampley was accurate when he said Manny was probably using HGH.

[wizard king]

Pac is not finish and still in his prime the problem is he is not fighting plotters that make him look good those days are over. Pac limited boxing skills are more apprant with live boxers. At this point pac is not beating anyone.

[The Big Dunn]

They gotta do something, PAC just doesn't look like he wants to do this anymore, his body language is all wrong.

I think Manny may be tired of his circumstances, not fighting in general. He just beat Tim rather easily IMO. There just aren't a lot of plodders and come forward fighters at 147 that are ppv worthy anymore.

I'm sure he'd be up for a Floyd fight. I'm sure he'd look good vs a Brandon Rios.

[Larry the boss]

Yea he is done,he lost speed,and fighters have figured out he can't deal with movement.He is still better than most but he certainly is not unbeatable.his workrate is reduces when you move and he gets frustrated,he is unable to adapt and with is reduces speed the power factor is also gone