Is Manny Pacaquiao finished?

[johnm is...]

He looked bad against a guy (JMM) who he's always looked bad against.

Then he beat Bradley, and wasn't given a decision.

Past his best? Sure. Finished? That's just ******.

[IMDAZED]

I think he's lost his last two fights and while not at the bottom of the mountain, he's very much in a downward slide. He's not as mobile as he once was and this really began showing in the Mosley fight. For some reason he isn't hurting his opponents as much as he used to but I suspect that's because the quality of opposition increased and his speed decreased. The Floyd who fought Cotto would have murked him. And I think Bradley can grind him down if Pacquiao decides to take the rematch.

[DeadLikeMe]

I mean he's not shot to pieces, but really he has very little left in the tank IMO...

[Tamis!]

I thought Pac was on PEDS?

Why are people saying he's slowed a bit?

Ain't PEDS built to improve all those?

[Tamis!]

Seriously, age is slowly creeping up on him.

[damned1974]

Seriously, age is slowly creeping up on him.

Yeah-at the old fart age of 33..I doubt it.He seemed to taper off in stamina,foot/hand speed and work rate/ punch output in a matter of one fight (after his fights in Texas-and after he was accused of taking PEDs)....doesn't seem like old age to me...and it isn't creeping-like I said,he has went from looking dynamic while fighting in Texas,to looking like dirt outside of the state... odd timing and an odd coincidence...

[damned1974]

I thought Pac was on PEDS?

Why are people saying he's slowed a bit?

Ain't PEDS built to improve all those?

Most of those who thought he was on PEDs believed him to be on them until his last 3 fights...before that,he was accused of taking drugs, fought in Texas 2 times in a row (after Floyd asked him to take randomized testing) and then looked like crap once he quit fighting in Texas (the land of no mandatory drug testing)....weird coincidence.

[IMDAZED]

I thought Pac was on PEDS?

Why are people saying he's slowed a bit?

Ain't PEDS built to improve all those?

PEDs don't work forever. At some point they begin to have adverse effects on an aging athlete.

[PACnPBFsuck]

The sad thing is, that the dudes that are available can and will make him look bad in the ring, If I was Arum, I would try to find someone like Margo or Clottey, where PAC will look amazing, his moral has to be at an all time low.

[damned1974]

I think he's lost his last two fights and while not at the bottom of the mountain, he's very much in a downward slide. He's not as mobile as he once was and this really began showing in the Mosley fight. For some reason he isn't hurting his opponents as much as he used to but I suspect that's because the quality of opposition increased and his speed decreased. The Floyd who fought Cotto would have murked him. And I think Bradley can grind him down if Pacquiao decides to take the rematch.

I agree.I believe Bradley beats him in a rematch and Floyd decimates him. Lately it looks like Manny only looks for the ko punch,but he doesn't have that type of power....I am not sure how his punch volume and stamina has slid in the matter of one fight...he seems real flat footed and slowed down compared to when he was fighting in Texas....strange.