Nobody has really taken over from hatton at 140

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  • hookoutofhell
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    #11
    Originally posted by FeFist
    So the mark against Bradley is not fighting Khan?

    At Jr Welterweight, Hatton did not fight Cotto or Mayweather, dominant fighters who were in his division.

    Bradley was the king at 140lb.
    agreed - bradley has been the best at 140 since hatton and has beaten a solid string of competition (witter, peterson, holt, alexander, casamayor).

    khan has a decent resume as well with wins against paulie m, kotelnik and maidana but his loss to garcia counts against him. also bradley beat a much better version of peterson and beat him much more decisively.

    bradley was going through promotional issues at the time and this is why the fight with khan wasn't made. but listening to bradley who seems p!ssed at khan makes me think they will both fight sometime in the future.

    N.B. pacman would have dominated at 140 but didn't stay long enough

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    • Hitman Hodgson
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      #12
      I'd favour a prime Hatton over any of the other champs at 140 over the last few years (apart from Pac). He was flawed but he was very good at what he did. A tremendous body puncher with good speed, very good foot work who would pressure his opponent the whole fight.

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      • Jam Jars
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        #13
        Originally posted by pbftxrs316
        hatton was scared as **** to fight floyd back in 2004 and 2005 at 140--he even admitted to the uk press he wasn't ready for floyd---and his father did also---

        he stayed away from floyd and he knew why---and floyd moved up in weight to fight hatton and kosta and they never wanted any parts of him--neither did cotto, de la hoya and mosley during those times---they all saw what happened to gatti and how floyd looked that night physically and mentally---imo it was his best fight in terms of his performance, not gatti's--God rest his soul--
        LOL @ Tszyu ducking Mayweather. That fight didn't happen due to Mayweather being on HBO and Kostya on Showtime.

        Originally posted by FeFist
        So the mark against Bradley is not fighting Khan?

        At Jr Welterweight, Hatton did not fight Cotto or Mayweather, dominant fighters who were in his division.

        Bradley was the king at 140lb.
        Dominant? Cotto was getting rocked by ****ing Malignaggi at 140. LOL

        Bradley openly ducked Khan because he was afraid of losing, some ****ing king. LOL

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        • Rapid Counter
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          #14
          Originally posted by hookoutofhell
          agreed - bradley has been the best at 140 since hatton and has beaten a solid string of competition (witter, peterson, holt, alexander, casamayor).

          khan has a decent resume as well with wins against paulie m, kotelnik and maidana but his loss to garcia counts against him. also bradley beat a much better version of peterson and beat him much more decisively.

          bradley was going through promotional issues at the time and this is why the fight with khan wasn't made. but listening to bradley who seems p!ssed at khan makes me think they will both fight sometime in the future.

          N.B. pacman would have dominated at 140 but didn't stay long enough
          I agree with almost everything but I don't think Bradley beat a much better version of Peterson. I think the Peterson that Bradley fought and the Peterson that Khan fought are exactly the same. Bradley did a much better job though.

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            #15
            Originally posted by pbftxrs316
            hatton was scared as **** to fight floyd back in 2004 and 2005 at 140--he even admitted to the uk press he wasn't ready for floyd---and his father did also---

            he stayed away from floyd and he knew why---and floyd moved up in weight to fight hatton and kosta and they never wanted any parts of him--neither did cotto, de la hoya and mosley during those times---they all saw what happened to gatti and how floyd looked that night physically and mentally---imo it was his best fight in terms of his performance, not gatti's--God rest his soul--
            If a fighter isn't ready then they aren't ready .... Floyd likes to fight them when they are still on the green side ... lol!

            After Hatton won against Kostya Tszyu, Floyd moved up to WW ..... Hatton tried to chase and move up to 147 but that was his mistake. Hatton wasn't going to be as affective at 147 as he was at 140 with his style.

            Cotto too was still developing and the right time was several years later when ironically, Floyd fought Hatton or soon after when Floyd retired.

            Oscar beat Gatti too by stoppage but Gatti didn't belong at 147 ... just like Hatton didn't.


            and if you say that Hatton was scared because his father said Hatton wasn't ready then I suppose Floyd was scared of Manny because Floyd SR admitted that he didn't want his son to fight Manny.
            Last edited by ADP02; 08-11-2012, 09:49 AM.

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            • 4Corners
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              Hatton took over at 140 when he beat Tszyu, but he and his team blatantly said they were not ready for Mayweather in Late 2005, when Floyd-Hatton was first talked about. He also didn't fight Cotto at 140, though Cotto didn't really do big things till he got to 147 anyway.

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              • 4Corners
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                #17
                Originally posted by ADP02
                If a fighter isn't ready then they aren't ready .... Floyd likes to fight them when they are still on the green side ... lol!

                After Hatton won against Kostya Tszyu, Floyd moved up to WW ..... Hatton tried to chase and move up to 147 but that was his mistake. Hatton wasn't going to be as affective at 147 as he was at 140 with his style.

                Cotto too was still developing and the right time was several years later when ironically, Floyd fought Hatton or soon after when Floyd retired.

                Oscar beat Gatti too by stoppage but Gatti didn't belong at 147 ... just like Hatton didn't.


                and if you say that Hatton was scared because his father said Hatton wasn't ready then I suppose Floyd was scared of Manny because Floyd SR admitted that he didn't want his son to fight Manny.
                Hatton and Cotto weren't "green" in 2005. Hatton was still prime in 2007, it was Hatton's own fault that fight happened at 147 and not 140. Same outcome anyway.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by 4Corners
                  Hatton took over at 140 when he beat Tszyu, but he and his team blatantly said they were not ready for Mayweather in Late 2005, when Floyd-Hatton was first talked about. He also didn't fight Cotto at 140, though Cotto didn't really do big things till he got to 147 anyway.
                  Originally posted by 4Corners
                  Hatton and Cotto weren't "green" in 2005. Hatton was still prime in 2007, it was Hatton's own fault that fight happened at 147 and not 140. Same outcome anyway.

                  The guy said that Hatton, Cotto avoided and he even used the word "scared as sh$t" of Floyd.

                  Why fight when your team thinks that you first need a few more fights or to develop more or to fix a few flaws and so on.

                  The truth is that their team thought that their fighter needed more time before they took on a fighter like Floyd. What's so hard to understand?

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                    #19
                    well, he didnt have a tenure to speak of at 140, but manny pacquiao sank that ship with a left hand


                    he was the heir to the throne through that, but he never really defended it.

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                    • 4Corners
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                      #20
                      On a side note, Danny Garcia has a chance now.

                      If he beats a Judah/Peterson, as well as Matthysse and another solid Top 10 JWW, I say he's officially taken over 140.

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