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  • Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII View Post
    No he hasnt. Floyd is Roy Jones 2.0 today. Floyd relys on his cat like reflexes to beat his opponents. The difference in the Ortiz fight and Cotto made this so obvious to anyone who wasn't a fanboy. His lower torso wasnt moving as fast when he would try and roll, and his feet did not match his body as they always have. Victor was FAR from a blowout as these idiot fan boys say, and Cotto was close (again only fan boys dispute this, and claim "you dont know boxing or started watching 2 years ago"). Mannys opponents have been to fault for not seeing a KO. How can you fight the unwilling? Mosley? Ran all night NEVER tried to fight. Bradley? Aint even going to go there. Margs? Was just a beat down. JMM? Thats his kryptonite. Bottom line is that both guys are declining the same as both rely on physical gifts rather than smarts. Thats the reason why Hopkins is still beating kids down, and RJJ is getting KO'd every fight. Roys physical is gone, while Hopkins used every trick in the book to beat you without being as fast or strong as he used to be. I love both Floyd and Pac, but im not going to BS the story like so many of you do. Floyd beats PAC 2 years ago no doubt. Today....after Ortiz and Cotto....Pac will beat Floyd. Don't like that im bashing you're role model? Give me red "k".
    Never gave red k, definitely not my style lol

    Every fighter, to a certain extent, relies on their physical attributes to get through a fight (height, reach, speed, power, etc.). If B-Hop didn't have his height and reach, he wouldn't be as effective with his jab and sneaky straight right. Of course, he needs to also depend on creating a solid game-plan too, but that's cuz he's a methodical fighter.

    You acknowledge the fact that both guys are deteriorating, yet you blame Pac's opposition for him not getting the stoppages. Ever noticed that he isn't good at cutting off the ring? He needs for his opponent to come forward and remain in a straight line, and only then is he truly effective. Look at the last 3-4 opponents that he stopped, and you can see they all made the same errors. Of course, the same can be said for Floyd as well. When your opponent comes at you, it's easier to beat them right? But, Floyd has shown the ability to adjust, which requires a high ring IQ. Pac doesn't have the skills necessary to beat him, what made it close was his speed/power and now that he doesn't have that, I still don't see how he doesn't get out-boxed by Floyd. Even a faded Floyd still would beat Pac because his skill-set is much more complete.
    Last edited by kiaba360; 08-09-2012, 04:11 PM.

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    • Lawyer's Hot air.

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      • Originally posted by big_james10 View Post
        You dumb motherf..cker, Pac cannot negotiate on his own behalf anymore than you can choose to go to McDonald's without your mother's or your boyfriend's permission. Michael Koncz can't negotiate on is behalf. Pac's lawyer can't negotiate on his behalf. The only person who can negotiate on Pac's behalf is Bob Arum and Bob Arum hasn't talked to Mayweather or anyone in Mayweather's camp about a fight since Decemer 2009. That was the last and only negotiation that took place. What took place between Floyd and Pac was a conversation earlier this year was a conversation and nothing more. If the fight is made, I guarantee you that Pac will get less than the $40 million guarantee that Floyd suggested and he damn sure won't get 50 percent of anything. ******ed people like you shouldn't be allowed to use the computer without supervision.
        You clowns keep confirming that Floyd is not interested in proving himself. You always make it sound as if Pacman is the only one that could benefit from this fight. Makes sense for fantasy kids.

        Pacman is not the one being called a chicken and a coward for the last three years. If this fight never gets made, your hero becomes the biggest duck of this century. If anything, your hero should be the one BEGGING for this fight.

        Man, I hope it never happens. It's no longer attractive anyway. It's never been. How can you look forward to a fight with a reluctant fighter in it?

        Keep on fooling yourself. The Fraud is no Mike Tyson. Half of the world doesn't even recognize him. Pac, the real superstar, made him even bigger.

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        • Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII View Post
          No he hasnt. Floyd is Roy Jones 2.0 today. Floyd relys on his cat like reflexes to beat his opponents. The difference in the Ortiz fight and Cotto made this so obvious to anyone who wasn't a fanboy. His lower torso wasnt moving as fast when he would try and roll, and his feet did not match his body as they always have. Victor was FAR from a blowout as these idiot fan boys say, and Cotto was close (again only fan boys dispute this, and claim "you dont know boxing or started watching 2 years ago"). Mannys opponents have been to fault for not seeing a KO. How can you fight the unwilling? Mosley? Ran all night NEVER tried to fight. Bradley? Aint even going to go there. Margs? Was just a beat down. JMM? Thats his kryptonite. Bottom line is that both guys are declining the same as both rely on physical gifts rather than smarts. Thats the reason why Hopkins is still beating kids down, and RJJ is getting KO'd every fight. Roys physical is gone, while Hopkins used every trick in the book to beat you without being as fast or strong as he used to be. I love both Floyd and Pac, but im not going to BS the story like so many of you do. Floyd beats PAC 2 years ago no doubt. Today....after Ortiz and Cotto....Pac will beat Floyd. Don't like that im bashing you're role model? Give me red "k".
          U do know Money is known for making adjustments and being the smartest fighter alive! That just makes everything u just said sound ******! Realy ******, because then u have ur last statement backwards, Pac had a better chance 2 yrs ago then now because the only way Pac would win is by tko, but if he has to rely on skills he get dominated, and when is the last time Pac won by tko? Like I said before if fight happens Pac gets Ricky Hattond! (charging in gets laid across the ring post)

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          • Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
            Never gave red k, definitely not my style lol

            Every fighter, to a certain extent, relies on their physical attributes to get through a fight (height, reach, speed, power, etc.). If B-Hop didn't have his height and reach, he wouldn't be as effective with his jab and sneaky straight right. Of course, he needs to also depend on creating a solid game-plan too, but that's cuz he's a methodical fighter.

            You acknowledge the fact that both guys are deteriorating, yet you blame Pac's opposition for him not getting the stoppages. Ever noticed that he isn't good at cutting off the ring? He needs for his opponent to come forward and remain in a straight line, and only then is he truly effective. Look at the last 3-4 opponents that he stopped, and you can see they all made the same errors. Of course, the same can be said for Floyd as well. When your opponent comes at you, it's easier to beat them right? But, Floyd has shown his ability to adjust, which requires a high ring IQ. Pac doesn't have the skills necessary to beat him, what made it close was his speed/power and now that he doesn't have that, I still don't see how he doesn't get out-boxed by Floyd. Even a faded Floyd still would beat Pac because his skill-set is much more complete.
            I agree with you on some of this here. Just with the part where Manny cant cut off the ring, im in total disagreement. Its hard when its a cat and mouse game. Another thing i always say is what makes this fight so unknown is the fact that people say Floyd is far more technical, but i disagree, and say that Manny has such an awkward and non traditional style (sometimes hard to watch), and that how he makes it all work, doesn't count as a technical ability to some. Both guys have flaws in their game, and both are aging, and end of the day, i think Floyds ability wearing will show far more than Mannys. I could be totally wrong, but how i see these 2 guys fight with styles, my money is on Manny today. (and I reserve the right to change my mind )

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            • Originally posted by valentino23 View Post
              U do know Money is known for making adjustments and being the smartest fighter alive! That just makes everything u just said sound ******! Realy ******, because then u have ur last statement backwards, Pac had a better chance 2 yrs ago then now because the only way Pac would win is by tko, but if he has to rely on skills he get dominated, and when is the last time Pac won by tko? Like I said before if fight happens Pac gets Ricky Hattond! (charging in gets laid across the ring post)
              Spare me....what...he took a big shot from Shane and took over? He looked like crap against Ortiz, and Cotto was a helluva lot closer than you people think. Most of you use Shane as your soul reference to his "adjustment" ability (Cotto ran out of gas). The fact that you just compared to Hatton...yeah ill let you have your moment of gratification.
              Last edited by S IP U IR S xII; 08-09-2012, 04:24 PM.

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              • Originally posted by S IP U IR S xII View Post
                Spare me....what...he took a big shot from Shane and took over? He looked like crap against Ortiz, and Cotto was a helluva lot closer than you people think. Most of you use Shane as your soul reference to his "adjustment" ability (Cotto ran out of gas). The fact that you just compared to Hatton...yeah ill let you have your moment of gratification.
                He looked like crap against Ortiz.... Ortiz landed ZERO jabs against him. Lol get that garbage out of here.

                And the Cotto fight was scored PERFECTLY. Cotto threw a lot, missed a lot. Floyd dominated the fight.

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                • Btw

                  5. Juan Marquez (can anyone beat him soundly?)

                  Answer: Mayweather

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                  • Originally posted by mannyfresh209 View Post
                    He looked like crap against Ortiz.... Ortiz landed ZERO jabs against him. Lol get that garbage out of here.

                    And the Cotto fight was scored PERFECTLY. Cotto threw a lot, missed a lot. Floyd dominated the fight.
                    LOL....what are you going by compubox? LOL...i bet you are the same numskull that said compubox was not legit when Pac beat JMM third time.

                    Originally posted by mannyfresh209
                    Btw

                    5. Juan Marquez (can anyone beat him soundly?)

                    Answer: Mayweather

                    Not even going to respond to that ****** post.

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                    • Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
                      Never gave red k, definitely not my style lol

                      Every fighter, to a certain extent, relies on their physical attributes to get through a fight (height, reach, speed, power, etc.). If B-Hop didn't have his height and reach, he wouldn't be as effective with his jab and sneaky straight right. Of course, he needs to also depend on creating a solid game-plan too, but that's cuz he's a methodical fighter.

                      You acknowledge the fact that both guys are deteriorating, yet you blame Pac's opposition for him not getting the stoppages. Ever noticed that he isn't good at cutting off the ring? He needs for his opponent to come forward and remain in a straight line, and only then is he truly effective. Look at the last 3-4 opponents that he stopped, and you can see they all made the same errors. Of course, the same can be said for Floyd as well. When your opponent comes at you, it's easier to beat them right? But, Floyd has shown the ability to adjust, which requires a high ring IQ. Pac doesn't have the skills necessary to beat him, what made it close was his speed/power and now that he doesn't have that, I still don't see how he doesn't get out-boxed by Floyd. Even a faded Floyd still would beat Pac because his skill-set is much more complete.
                      Take theTest, FRAUD.......Fight Pac, in November, or do U need a Tuneup???
                      Jail Should have made U Mean, for the test in NOVEMBER!!!
                      Last edited by jbpanama; 08-09-2012, 04:46 PM.

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