Comments Thread For: Arum Talks Mayweather-Pacquiao For 2013, Bradley II

[Bullrider]

LOL...exactly! If Pac/May get it on...it's because Arum was ready to do so. It would only be a coincidence that 50 was involved and it would be good timing on his end. Arum is getting ready to cash Pac out due to Pac's involvement in politics.

LOL. When are these clowns going to face reality and stop fooling themselves that it is the Fraud that have kept this fight from happening? Fear of losing has nothing to do with anything or anyone.

What is zero PPV offer has anything to do with Arum?

[S IP U IR S xII]

It's their attributes that have faded. Floyd has always been considered the more skilled fighter, but now that they're out of their prime (Pac more-so than Floyd), the fight would depend much more on skill level. Pac won't have the speed (affecting his foot-work and power) and the stamina (ability to fight 3 minutes of each round) to be as competitive as he would need to be to take the fight away from Floyd. I agree that it is still a legacy fight of big proportions to the paying majority, but it's an after-thought imho.

No he hasnt. Floyd is Roy Jones 2.0 today. Floyd relys on his cat like reflexes to beat his opponents. The difference in the Ortiz fight and Cotto made this so obvious to anyone who wasn't a fanboy. His lower torso wasnt moving as fast when he would try and roll, and his feet did not match his body as they always have. Victor was FAR from a blowout as these idiot fan boys say, and Cotto was close (again only fan boys dispute this, and claim "you dont know boxing or started watching 2 years ago"). Mannys opponents have been to fault for not seeing a KO. How can you fight the unwilling? Mosley? Ran all night NEVER tried to fight. Bradley? Aint even going to go there. Margs? Was just a beat down. JMM? Thats his kryptonite. Bottom line is that both guys are declining the same as both rely on physical gifts rather than smarts. Thats the reason why Hopkins is still beating kids down, and RJJ is getting KO'd every fight. Roys physical is gone, while Hopkins used every trick in the book to beat you without being as fast or strong as he used to be. I love both Floyd and Pac, but im not going to BS the story like so many of you do. Floyd beats PAC 2 years ago no doubt. Today....after Ortiz and Cotto....Pac will beat Floyd. Don't like that im bashing you're role model? Give me red "k".

[The904star]

While Jr ducked and Retired in 07 etc..... (whenever a threat came up) and stayed refreshed

Pac was doing Major WarFARE !

I don't think Pac gave out of stamina so much in the JMM fight as he did in this last fight with Bradley.

In the Bradley fight he tried to put his combos together but they didn't get together but a few fights back they would have landed. So I am saying I saw the decline more in this last fight than before.

Who has JR fought in the last 8 years ???? NOBODYS or WASHED UP BODYS or little bodys ,,,never has he fought a prime WW to the finish. The closest was ORTIZ and that was botched.

Pac has been busy fighting bigger , much bigger men in wars.

IF this next fight proves that Pac is on a decline, I hope he tells the world you waited to late, smiles and retires while looking at JR and walks off to do whatever he is to do

If I was to look back at the last 8 years I would conclude that they have pretty much fought the same fighters. De la Hoya, hatton, Marquez, Mosley, cotto. Margarito at a catch weight and who else, clottey? Not much of a difference. I don't think stamina had anything to do with nanny not landing shots on Bradley. It was actually head movement. I respect your opinion but it seems that manny fans are making a lot of excuses for his recent performances rather than giving credit to his opponents.

[mannyfresh209]

Funny, all the people calling Floyd a cherry-picker.... instead of retiring and missing out on all kinds of money, couldn't he had just cherry-picked some other fighters to occupy his time?

Think about it... dude wasn't running from anybody. Dude wanted a vacation.

[big_james10]

Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, who flew into a flooded Metro Manila to discuss plans for Manny Pacquiao’s Nov. 10 fight, scheduled at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, said a fight against Floyd Mayweather Jr. will take place next year.

“I want to explore with Manny the feasibility of doing a Mayweather fight sometime next year. I have to get his idea on schedules and when he is going to have to start campaigning for office,” Arum told BoxingScene.com/Manila Standard. [Click Here To Read More]

This is more bullsh.it from Bob Arum. He is doing the same thing he has done for the last four years. He is using Mayweather's name to promote Pacquaio's next fight. Arum could have made this fight any time in the last four years. He could have made it in May of this year. Yet, he waits until he knows Pacquaio is getting ready to retire to claim he wants to make the fight. He claims he will have no trouble with the purse. Considering his recent perfomance, Pac will get less than the $40 million guarantee that he was offered earlier this year and he damn sure won't get 50 percent of everything. So, suddenly Arum will no longer have a problem with Pac getting less money. I hope the ******ed Pac fans will wake up now and smell the coffee and realize that Arum has been playing them or fools for the last four years. I personally no longer want to see the fight and I hope Floyd refuses to fight him now. I hopes he fights Martinez, two other fighters and then retires.

[maguirre]

This is more bullsh.it from Bob Arum.

More bs from this ****rider. The last known DIRECT negotiation was between Manny and Floyd. Floyd wanted what amounted to an 80/20 split. Keep fooling yourselves.

[jtcs1981]

Soooo.... Bradley 2 in November and Bradley 3 in 2013..... Roger that

TV networks dont want any of that rematch. They dont want Bradley.

[big_james10]

Hopefully Pacman knocks Bradley out then the eagerly awaited clash can happen next year.

Floyd is fighting Canelo Alvarez in May of next year. So, unless Arum is willing to make the fight for December of this year or January 2012 (if Floyd is willing to fight then), the only way a Mayweather/Pac fight takes place is i it takes place in November 2013. If Pac retires in March or April of next year, Arum will simply lose out on a chance to cash Pacquaio out.

[big_james10]

More bs from this ****rider. The last known DIRECT negotiation was between Manny and Floyd. Floyd wanted what amounted to an 80/20 split. Keep fooling yourselves.

You dumb motherf..cker, Pac cannot negotiate on his own behalf anymore than you can choose to go to McDonald's without your mother's or your boyfriend's permission. Michael Koncz can't negotiate on is behalf. Pac's lawyer can't negotiate on his behalf. The only person who can negotiate on Pac's behalf is Bob Arum and Bob Arum hasn't talked to Mayweather or anyone in Mayweather's camp about a fight since Decemer 2009. That was the last and only negotiation that took place. What took place between Floyd and Pac was a conversation earlier this year. It was a conversation and nothing more. You can't negotiate if you are not in control and I know your ****** a.ss have heard Pac say a thousand times, like everyone else, that he fights whoever his promoter tells him to fight. If Pac had the power to make his own decisions, this fight would have alreay taken place. If the fight is made, I guarantee you that Pac will get less than the $40 million guarantee that Floyd suggested and he damn sure won't get 50 percent of anything. ******ed people like you shouldn't be allowed to use the computer without supervision.

[valentino23]

Some of you sound crazy or just fan boys who cant see the truth. 1st whoever said that Floyd only uses physical skills sounds ****** and doesn't watch boxing, cause everybody knows that not only does he have the God gifted physical attributes to compete, but he is also probably the smartest fighter alive. He is known for his adjustments! Thats why they say if u dont get him in the 1st 4rnds, then its a wrap, cause by then he's tagging u and theres nothing u can do about it. 2nd I can't say Pac is declining because if you look at his last couple of fights, he looks the say, his opponents just didn't stand in front of him so he could get 3 or 4 shots off. I mean look who the impressive fights were against. ODL who was badly weight drain (worst ever), Hatton (never was the same after floyd), Cotto (CW and didn't have a trainer his cornerman was his friend he sleeps with, so what kind of camp did he have training hisself), then Margarita (Who just got tko'd by Mosley, and hadn't fought in over a year) So when you look at it, it realy wasn't that impressive! Not to mention Pac don't like skilled counter punchers, which if he were to fight May, he would be fighting the ultimate counter puncher. I honestly believe he gets Hattond!