Chad Dawson says he's already at 178 pounds for Andre Ward fight

[Kris Silver]

Kessler was in no position to request, demand or ask for anything of the sort. At the time, Kessler was rated lower than Dawson (still is), just like Dawson is rated lower than Ward.

I was partially playing devils advocate Imdazed and I knew this would be said.

But the fact of the matter is Kessler wasn't such a bad match up. Chad wasn't such a big name at that time, Kess to my knowledge made an ok offer with Chad taking more money.

Chad has said he believes in champs facing each other and going to the guys division, and that he can get to 168 easily.

That it at least must be conceded is, somewhat at odd's with his position then of not even being able to go 168 to face Kessler a champ, especially at a time weight wise it would have been easier for him to do so and a very winnable fight with more favourable terms.

He'd have likely won that one. This time around he's conceded he can get to 168 and is doing so for a bigger name. Trouble is, it's going to leave him losing this one. Unfortunately for him.

[#1Assassin]

I watched the video dumb nuts, ever think you might feel everyone else coincidentally has thick skulls...because it's in-fact...you that's the thick nuts?

The whole challenge thing whatever yer course he'll say that, anyone would going to a guys weight precisely. And if he does then win it gives him some extra bragging rights.

It's not negotiations, well of course it friggin is you idiot, he just chose not to quarrel and his early bargain may have been, ok I'll come to your weight entirely. That is uncommon and should have been used for stronger leverage for other terms, at least. This is common in boxing, get over it.

All I'm saying is I think in fairness to Chad given he's a champ whose just beaten an ATG, he's given far too much respect and too many of the terms away to Andre. Even if you don't want to settle at 170 which is still most of the weight change on your side, don't then also fight at Andre's home town.

I'm taking it your betting on Chad. If so I'll gladly bet with you.

Oh, and by the way, what the fuck happened to Chad not being willing to go to 168 years ago for a champ at the weight, in Kessler? Oh, he wants to go to the champs weight, but can't go down to 168 then, and doesn't want to do catch weights. Not about the money or whatever else. Blah blah.

wtf are u talking about? dawson has been willing to move down to 168 literally the entire time he was at 175. hes been saying so long before he challenged ward.

kessler wasnt good enough for him to fight at any weight, chad has been fighting guys like adamek, tarver, hopkins, johnson and now ward for the last couple of years. why bother fighting someone like kessler when you can take on the best? he was willing to drop to 168 for calzaghe and hes been saying for years he wants to fight the best at 168 and become SMW champion. kessler has never been champion or the best just another titlist, a highly overrated one at that. that chump isnt good enough to carry dawsons jockstrap.

and it really isnt about negotiations, im telling you chad is old school. he just wants to fight, he truly doesnt care about the circumstances. never has.

did he have to go to pascal and diaconus backyard to fight them? did he have to go to johnsons base in florida to fight him the first time or give him a rematch after glen gave him his toughest fight? no he didnt, but he did it anyways. in fact when he said he was willing to fight calzaghe at 168 he also said he was willing to go to englad or wales, to do it at any time and for a fraction of the money he would have deserved for that fight.

ppl act liek this is some new **** with chad that has been forced on him by ward, it isnt. dawson is a throwback, line em up and he will knock em down. any time, any place, any circumstance and its not just talk. its real, from the lips of the boxing messiah to the ears and eyes to those of us fortunate enough to live in a time to appreciate greatness in its purest form.. chad dawson.

you are right about one thing though, i do have thick nuts. in fact my nuts are so big and thick a fighter once hit me below the belt and broke his hand. thats why he had to cancel his fight with cloud next week, sorry guys. everytime calzaghe had to get a broken hand so he could duck glen johnson he would give me a call too. true story.

[IMDAZED]

I was partially playing devils advocate Imdazed and I knew this would be said.

But the fact of the matter is Kessler wasn't such a bad match up. Chad wasn't such a big name at that time, Kess to my knowledge made an ok offer with Chad taking more money.

Chad has said he believes in champs facing each other and going to the guys division, and that he can get to 168 easily.

That it at least must be conceded is, somewhat at odd's with his position then of not even being able to go 168 to face Kessler a champ, especially at a time weight wise it would have been easier for him to do so and a very winnable fight with more favourable terms.

He'd have likely won that one. This time around he's conceded he can get to 168 and is doing so for a bigger name. Trouble is, it's going to leave him losing this one. Unfortunately for him.

What are you talking about? Dawson should move down to 168 because Kessler says so? This is your argument? Please. Kessler wasn't and still isn't a reason to move down and thus he didn't. End of story.

[deanrw]

10lbs to go. Those last 10 rounds are going to be the ones that will weaken him and possibly even help Ward stop him.

There may have been a time when he could comfortably make the weight. That was when be was young. A few years tacked on can make a huge difference.

[Kris Silver]

What are you talking about? Dawson should move down to 168 because Kessler says so? This is your argument? Please. Kessler wasn't and still isn't a reason to move down and thus he didn't. End of story.

Dude I haven't said that you need to read before replying so promptly jumping to your own conclusion so much some times.

I'll make a particular point as simple as possible:

2008 approx: I can't get down to 168 for Kessler, and won't entertain it.
2012 and other times: I can easily get down to 168, and will do to be a champion in it.

That isolated point put simply, was somewhat of a lie and contradiction. Other things aside.

[IMDAZED]

Dude I haven't said that you need to read before replying so promptly jumping to your own conclusion so much some times.

I'll make a particular point as simple as possible:

2008 approx: I can't get down to 168 for Kessler, and won't entertain it.
2012 and other times: I can easily get down to 168, and will, do for another champion.

That isolate point put simply, was somewhat of a lie and contradiction. Other things aside.

Dawson has always said he'd love to go down to 168. Always.

[TX_BOXNG]

this is a great fight, dawson challenge ward at 168 n thats why he is going down in weight but there is always haters in every match no matter how great the fighters are or whats in line they gotta talk crap about something, just looking for some to spot out n come up with ****** stuff lol, 2 skill fighters accepted the challenge

[brick wall]

well he never walks around above 180, the fight is 5 weeks away. unless hes having a 6 week camp im suprised he isnt lighter.

the **** you talking about? he's 178 right now while training and trying to reduce weight but he doesn't walk around above 180?

[BattlingNelson]

well he never walks around above 180, the fight is 5 weeks away. unless hes having a 6 week camp im suprised he isnt lighter.

180? You do realize that his weight on fight Night is about 185 right?

So please come up with a source for the 180, because it sure sounds like bullcrap.

[BattlingNelson]

Why would he go down to 168 for Mikkel Kessler? Especially at that time? Why? Because Kessler says so?

As I recall it, Dawson wanted Kessler at 175 and refused catchweight. He called out the champ at a lower division, but refused to meet in between.