Chad Dawson says he's already at 178 pounds for Andre Ward fight

[LeG00N]

Can't believe Ward is making him go down to 168 when this guy comes in at 190. What a punk.

good post.......

[Mike Haynes]

Brilliant on Chad's part. He loses he's still LHW champ and fight him at 175 in the rematch.

[IMDAZED]

I watched the video dumb nuts, ever think you might feel everyone else coincidentally has thick skulls...because it's in-fact...you that's the thick nuts?

The whole challenge thing whatever yer course he'll say that, anyone would going to a guys weight precisely. And if he does then win it gives him some extra bragging rights.

It's not negotiations, well of course it friggin is you idiot, he just chose not to quarrel and his early bargain may have been, ok I'll come to your weight entirely. That is uncommon and should have been used for stronger leverage for other terms, at least. This is common in boxing, get over it.

All I'm saying is I think in fairness to Chad given he's a champ whose just beaten an ATG, he's given far too much respect and too many of the terms away to Andre. Even if you don't want to settle at 170 which is still most of the weight change on your side, don't then also fight at Andre's home town.

I'm taking it your betting on Chad. If so I'll gladly bet with you.

Oh, and by the way, what the fuck happened to Chad not being willing to go to 168 years ago for a champ at the weight, in Kessler? Oh, he wants to go to the champs weight, but can't go down to 168 then, and doesn't want to do catch weights. Not about the money or whatever else. Blah blah.

Why would he go down to 168 for Mikkel Kessler? Especially at that time? Why? Because Kessler says so?

[johnm is...]

I remember Scully saying something like "That's how a true professional does it. Request the fight at 168, and sign the fight at 168."

People are tripping about what "Ward is making Dawson do", completely disregarding that it was Dawson who requested it, and then they signed the fight very soon after.

It seems there was very little to "negotiate", because they requested, with the intention of agreeing to what they requested.

It's pretty clear that people are just looking for a way to discredit Ward, should he win.

[ianhunter]

I thought this fight was at 170 or something.

Chad should have negotiated that and for Andre's belt still be up for grabs. Given that's happened before and he's going most of the way down.

you are one slowwww dude.


nobody has ever fought for a title over the weight limit. this is not permissable. it doesn't happen.

at catchweights under the limit, titles have been staked.

if ward and chad were to fight at 170, the only title eligible to be staked would be chad's.

[ianhunter]

@ the idea of dawson going down to 168 in search of his defining fight .. wait for it, waiiiiiiiiiiiiit for it .. DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN .. mikkel kessler.



ginger, please

[Kris Silver]

Kessler had only lost once at that stage and was being floated around to fight a few guys. I accept Kessler wasn't the name Ward is today but that isn't what Chad has cited as his reasoning, only that he supports facing champs and wants to do that a 168, period.

Perhaps Bat can clarify further on the Kessler thing but to completely not entertain fighting at 168 against Kessler when he would've got the better money and terms than against Andre, at least puts a dent in Chad's argument outlined in this vid. He also I'm fairly sure said he couldn't get down to 168. So was that a blatant lie?

I like both guys I do, if anything I prefer Ward slightly but I'm just saying Andre seems to get some fairly cushty deals, i.e. fighting at home a lot as-well.

[IMDAZED]

Kessler had only lost once at that stage and was being floated around to fight a few guys. I accept Kessler wasn't the name Ward is today but that isn't what Chad has cited as his reasoning, only that he supports facing champs and wants to do that a 168, period.

Perhaps Bat can clarify further on the Kessler thing but to completely not entertain fighting at 168 against Kessler when he would've got the better money and terms than against Andre, at least puts a dent in Chad's argument outlined in this vid. He also I'm fairly sure said he couldn't get down to 168. So was that a blatant lie?

I like both guys I do, if anything I prefer Ward slightly but I'm just saying Andre seems to get some fairly cushty deals, i.e. fighting at home a lot as-well.

Kessler was in no position to request, demand or ask for anything of the sort. At the time, Kessler was rated lower than Dawson (still is), just like Dawson is rated lower than Ward.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

I thought this fight was at 170 or something.

Chad should have negotiated that and for Andre's belt still be up for grabs. Given that's happened before and he's going most of the way down.

Seems he hasn't negotiated the best deal for someone whom has just beaten an ATG in Hopkins.

If he loses this which I think he does most likely by decision, he be wishing he bargained terms differently I reckon.

Should've been at a catchweight but no belts on the line. Also, win or lose Dawson should do a rematch at 175. Im gonna be real amazed if Dawson can make 168 and stay healthy. I don't doubt he can make 168 but can he stay healthy while doing so is the question.

[ianhunter]

what's the purse split on this one?

i'd bet you that dawson could accept the lesser share here and still make more than he would've made fighting kessler back then. how is dawson-kessler @168 a huge money fight for dawson even before the super six?

and, as imdazed points out, dawson had no reason to make concessions to kessler, who was only assumed to be the best at 168 by default after calzaghe's exit from the game. it's not as if kessler was some p4p guy with whom a superfight (or even a pseudo-superfight such as dawson-ward) could be made.