Who'll be most competitive against Mayweather: Garcia, Khan, Guerrero, Bailey..

[Light_Speed]

Link please..I've never heard anything about them negotiating..Not saying your wrong..

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-boxing-khan-garcia-mayweather-20120712,0,755349.story

While Mayweather is still in a Las Vegas jail serving a term for a domestic violence crime, his advisor, Leonard Ellerbe, and manager Al Haymon have met this week both with Khan and the boxer's promoter, Richard Schaefer, to discuss the possibility of a welterweight match in the near future.

[Bushbaby]

Can you name t the fighter Floyd fought from Jr WW with out them fighting at WW first??It's never happen..Even Hatton a far bigger draw then Khan had to have at least one fight at WW first..

You're right, he never fought a jr welterweight moving up........................however he sure did fight a lightweight moving up.

[Jamesv3]

Damn right. Garcia sure pulled through for me. I don't know how I would have handled Khan being allowed to share the same ring with Floyd.

Khan would of been a better opponent than an old Mosley or victor Ortiz was , khan may of been ko'd a few times but he's still a decent offensive boxer with height and speed if he keeps it simple and doesn't throw those amateurish combos instead keeping on the outside with jabs and straights hed be a decent opponent

[bojangles1987]

Thing is I precisely said welterweight. Now I too believe Alexander loss to Mattysse & Kotelnik. But like you & plenty other short sighted fans have claimed what happened at a lower weight class doesn't apply higher.

The fact is that even in those questionable victories, Alexander fought well. In 2 of khan's 3 losses, he's been leveled parallel. So far Alexander has actually dominated Maidana, next he'll fight Bailey. (I expect him to win handily). From there it's upward & onward. Far far better than Khan at this point in time.

When the hell have I ever said that? I argue the exact opposite, that a guy with great success at a lower, better weight would have success moving up because they've fought better fighters. It's the basis of why I was saying Khan would be one of the best welterweights. It's why I have never bought into Victor Ortiz when the majority of the boxing community did after Berto, when everyone thought he was a new fighter at welterweight. No, he just fought someone not as good as who he struggled with at 140.

It's also the basis of why I'm saying Alexander won't be great. He lost to the best fighters he fought at 140, including a guy that is now at welterweight and in position to be the best there at some point. Moving to a new division and beating worse fighters does not make him any better than he was a division lower.

[Bushbaby]

When the hell have I ever said that? I argue the exact opposite, that a guy with great success at a lower, better weight would have success moving up because they've fought better fighters. It's the basis of why I was saying Khan would be one of the best welterweights. It's why I have never bought into Victor Ortiz when the majority of the boxing community did after Berto, when everyone thought he was a new fighter at welterweight. No, he just fought someone not as good as who he struggled with at 140.

It's also the basis of why I'm saying Alexander won't be great. He lost to the best fighters he fought at 140, including a guy that is now at welterweight and in position to be the best there at some point. Moving to a new division and beating worse fighters does not make him any better than he was a division lower.

Alexander dominated a man that gave Khan hell though. He's fighting Bailey for a title next. Bailey leveled the biggest welterweight for that strap. Devon will dominate him, have a title & be matched with the better fighters at 147. When he fought Bradley he was a young un, he's maturing & he can only get better. It's not like he's on the decline.

Khan is on the decline. Peterson gave him fits, he's been slept twice now & Maidana had him out on his feet. He'll move up & the same thing will happen. Devon would also be more competitive against Floyd because he's better than Khan, period.

Lastly we should just leave Ortiz outa this here argument. After all, you did make a tread wishing broken jaws on better fighters just to hate on Ortiz. Now tell me you didn't do that.

[bojangles1987]

Alexander dominated a man that gave Khan hell though. He's fighting Bailey for a title next. Bailey leveled the biggest welterweight for that strap. Devon will dominate him, have a title & be matched with the better fighters at 147. When he fought Bradley he was a young un, he's maturing & he can only get better. It's not like he's on the decline.

Khan is on the decline. Peterson gave him fits, he's been slept twice now & Maidana had him out on his feet. He'll move up & the same thing will happen. Devon would also be more competitive against Floyd because he's better than Khan, period.

Lastly we should just leave Ortiz outa this here argument. After all, you did make a tread wishing broken jaws on better fighters just to hate on Ortiz. Now tell me you didn't do that.

I wasn't actually wishing injuries on anyone, I was making a thread to point out the hypocrisy people have on this site. So what?

And I'm sure as hell not going to leave Ortiz out of this argument, because he is a perfect example of why Alexander is not a new fighter at the weight. Guys do not magically become better fighters because they moved up in weight. Alexander lost to the three best fighters he fought, and if he fights anyone that good again I'll expect him to lose again. And since this thread is about chances against Mayweather, I guarantee that Alexander would not only lose to Floyd, he has one of the lowest chances of anyone on that list against Floyd. What worked against him in the fights he lost are exactly the things Floyd does great.

Although, in reality Bradley is the only fighter on that list that could win more than a round or two.

[Bushbaby]

I wasn't actually wishing injuries on anyone, I was making a thread to point out the hypocrisy people have on this site. So what?

And I'm sure as hell not going to leave Ortiz out of this argument, because he is a perfect example of why Alexander is not a new fighter at the weight. Guys do not magically become better fighters because they moved up in weight. Alexander lost to the three best fighters he fought, and if he fights anyone that good again I'll expect him to lose again. And since this thread is about chances against Mayweather, I guarantee that Alexander would not only lose to Floyd, he has one of the lowest chances of anyone on that list against Floyd. What worked against him in the fights he lost are exactly the things Floyd does great.

Alexander is the second best competitor on that list. Khan is 1 of the lowest on there. Khan is a 4 round fighter.

Anyhow I'll keep it short, whenever you're ready to bet, I'll make a bet that Alexander ends up being greater than Khan, period.

[bojangles1987]

Alexander is the second best competitor on that list. Khan is 1 of the lowest on there. Khan is a 4 round fighter.

Anyhow I'll keep it short, whenever you're ready to bet, I'll make a bet that Alexander ends up being greater than Khan, period.

I never even mentioned who would greater between Khan and Alexander, and I'd have to be a damn fool to make that bet right now. Yeah, Khan had and still has potential, but he has ended up taking a drastic downturn in his career, and I've already admitted I was wrong. It's likely too late for him to change the things he does wrong that will doom him over and over.

[Bushbaby]

I never even mentioned who would greater between Khan and Alexander, and I'd have to be a damn fool to make that bet right now. Yeah, Khan had and still has potential, but he has ended up taking a drastic downturn in his career, and I've already admitted I was wrong. It's likely too late for him to change the things he does wrong that will doom him over and over.

Funny thing is he blasted Brook before the fight & took Garcia lightly. Now he may actually need Brook more than Brook needs him. Furthermore I think Brook turns his lights out if they ever fought. Brook is absolutely a solid contender. He's the best Britain has to offer around their weight class believe me.

[bojangles1987]

Funny thing is he blasted Brook before the fight & took Garcia lightly. Now he may actually need Brook more than Brook needs him. Furthermore I think Brook turns his lights out if they ever fought. Brook is absolutely a solid contender. He's the best Britain has to offer around their weight class believe me.

For Brook's sake he hopefully takes a good hard look at how Khan has managed to screw up and takes a lesson. Carson Jones was a good step for his still young career, I know people will always point to that fight as proof he sucks but fights like that happen to just about everyone early in their career. The key is always to learn from it.