Comments Thread For: Guerrero’s Fists Won’t Cover Mouth’s Bloated Checks

[simms601]

This is for both of you. Lets understand 1 thing here. The Ghost has done more at 147 than Marquez did when he fought Floyd. That's a fact.

Furthermore it is a 15 month layoff the Ghost just came off of & a 2 weight class jump & surgery. On a tore back shoulder. No matter what you guys try to conjure up, Khan was next in line for Floyd when he'd never fought at 147 & isn't even the best at 140.

Then there's talk of ginger being in line for Floyd & he's never had a title fight in the division he's champ at. If you dudes are gonna hate on the Ghost you'd better not be prepared to let the likes of ginger/Khan & any other unworthy foe slide by. I don't see how you can direct the hate towards a fighter doing what the Ghost has in the last year & 1/2. When there are far less deserving fighters that get opportunities that they do not deserve.

You know what, I'll give you that with Marquez, he hadn't had any fights above 140 let alone 147, but he also had super fights with the likes of Pac and Barrera and has faced a slew of opposition that ****s on the fighters that Guerrero has faced. And against similar opposition Marquez performed better. Marquez KO Katsidis, Marquez UD Salido, Guerrero UD Katsidis and L Salido. So, there ya go I just countered your first argument. Khan was not next in line, only individuals you heard say such foolishness was Khan and Richard Schaefer, no one else. In actuality, the next most logical fight for Mayweather was a rematch with Cotto, which had built up steam until he went to jail. Third, Ginger, I'm assuming you mean Alvarez was not even worth mentioning due to Oscar De La Hoya stating, "Alvarez isn't ready for Mayweather, no way we put him in with him." There ya go, just countered you again. Me 3 you 0. And what exactly has Guerrero done in the last year and a half? Beat an old ass Casamayor, a C level figher in Escebedo and go a full 12 with Katsidis who was knocked out by Marquez? That's what you're leaning on to justify him getting a fight with Mayweather or any top WW for that matter? Answer this, where was he ranked by the WBC prior to this fight? I'll tell you, he wasn't ranked. Because he wasn't on the WBC radar based on his resume. Why did he fight in his hometown against a fighter unknown in the US, who had minimal skills, who had very little beyond a punchers chance of winning? He fought in his hometown in case of a close fight, he would get the nod. He fought an unknown fighter with a good record (23-0) and a good name (mini tyson) to give the illusion that he was facing a world beater. Aydin himself hasn't fought anyone of significance. It was a good front by golden boy, by stating that Guerrero was facing a guy who was undefeated and a puncher, but from first glance I saw a slow foot and hand fighter, very crude, mediocore defense and ZERO skills. And you know what, Guerrero only won by throwing more punches. The better quality punches were landed by Aydin, the much slower guy. So his C level competition, interim belts and one fight at 147 grants him a fight with the top fighters? GTFOH!

[simms601]

Aydin was ranked # 1 you dip sh it.

He was ranked #1 by the WBC ****! Nationally he's ranked 23rd. GTFOH! Like I said, he's not a top ranked fighter. Just because one freakin sanctioning body recognizes him as THEIR top contender doesn't mean he's going to be nationally ranked at #1. Get it together ****...

[Bushbaby]

You know what, I'll give you that with Marquez, he hadn't had any fights above 140 let alone 147, but he also had super fights with the likes of Pac and Barrera and has faced a slew of opposition that ****s on the fighters that Guerrero has faced. And against similar opposition Marquez performed better. Marquez KO Katsidis, Marquez UD Salido, Guerrero UD Katsidis and L Salido. So, there ya go I just countered your first argument. Khan was not next in line, only individuals you heard say such foolishness was Khan and Richard Schaefer, no one else. In actuality, the next most logical fight for Mayweather was a rematch with Cotto, which had built up steam until he went to jail. Third, Ginger, I'm assuming you mean Alvarez was not even worth mentioning due to Oscar De La Hoya stating, "Alvarez isn't ready for Mayweather, no way we put him in with him." There ya go, just countered you again. Me 3 you 0. And what exactly has Guerrero done in the last year and a half? Beat an old ass Casamayor, a C level figher in Escebedo and go a full 12 with Katsidis who was knocked out by Marquez? That's what you're leaning on to justify him getting a fight with Mayweather or any top WW for that matter? Answer this, where was he ranked by the WBC prior to this fight? I'll tell you, he wasn't ranked. Because he wasn't on the WBC radar based on his resume. Why did he fight in his hometown against a fighter unknown in the US, who had minimal skills, who had very little beyond a punchers chance of winning? He fought in his hometown in case of a close fight, he would get the nod. He fought an unknown fighter with a good record (23-0) and a good name (mini tyson) to give the illusion that he was facing a world beater. Aydin himself hasn't fought anyone of significance. It was a good front by golden boy, by stating that Guerrero was facing a guy who was undefeated and a puncher, but from first glance I saw a slow foot and hand fighter, very crude, mediocore defense and ZERO skills. And you know what, Guerrero only won by throwing more punches. The better quality punches were landed by Aydin, the much slower guy. So his C level competition, interim belts and one fight at 147 grants him a fight with the top fighters? GTFOH!

Well this is about the longest paragraph of self ownage I've ever seen maybe.

1st off, how do you give me Marquez then claim you 3 me 0??

2nd, the Ghost didn't beat Casa & Ecobode in this last year & a half. He went through a layoff this year & a half.

3rd I never said he deserved the fight, I said why hate him for trying & downplaying the fact that he fought the #1 contender coming off of a year & 1/2 layoff.

It's fine that he doesn't deserve the fight, but half the fighters Floyd has fought didn't deserve the fight. The Ghost just beat the next in line to the damn title though, that's more than some have, (no matter how great they are).

[simms601]

Since when did anyone have to "earn" a fight with Floyd?

Oscar losing to Sturm and Hopkins "earned" his fight with Floyd.

Zab being embarrassed by Baldomir "earned" him a fight with Floyd.

Hatton fighting weak comp and getting battered around by a non puncher (Collazo) "earned" him a fight with Floyd.

Ortiz? Bruseles? Mitchell? etc.

Therefore his argument and anyone defending it is ******ed. End of thread.

Your argument is garbage! Oscar De La Hoya was evitably the biggest cash cow in the game at that point when he fought Mayweather. Let's not forget he also was coming back from his most recent fight against Mayorga, he also felt that he was too big for Floyd, that's why he made the fight cause he figured he'd bully his way past Floyd. Zab and Baldomir fought in Jan of 06, by that time the Floyd fight had already been signed, venue selected, all the ins and outs were done, that fight was already on. Hatton won two more fights after Collazo before he fought Floyd. The Bruseles fight was actually a test to see how Floyd would look against a fighter similar to Cotto (FYI Cotto and Bruseles were training partners and use the same trainer.) They were prepping Mayweather to fight Cotto, he beat the hell out of Bruselles so the Cotto fight was out the window. Research before you speak. Second, Mitchell was also a tune up to prepare Floyd for the southpaw stance, if you didn't notice, his very next fight was against a what? You guessed it a southpaw, in Zab Judah. Ortiz beat the CHAMP, not the interim champ, not an eliminator or for a silver, gold, white, blue or purple belt. And to let you know, Floyd had to go on with the Zab Judah fight because it was PPV and he was TRYING to establish himself as a PPV fighter. All the fights before the Gatti fight were on regular television.

[mrlopez]

But if Guerrero feels he is ready then why shouldn't he call out Mayweather? At least he is willing to fight the best guy in the sport.

exactly, others have done it and its happened in the history of the sport. last time i checked, no one here is FMJ, his trainer or his relative...

Its one thing for Gurrero to call out PBF. Its a whole new thing for Guerrero to talk s@#t in calling out PBF like he is ENTITLED to a fight with PBF when he hasn't accomplished anything to deserve that fight. Bottomlline Guerrero hasn't earned this fight and fact of the matter is he shouldn't get the fight either.

nothing to deserve the fight? are you dumb, ignorant or both? he's the MANDATORY to FMJ, either FMJ evntually fights him or he vacates the title and Ghost becomes the full belt holder...

This article sucks..tell us how you really feel..LOL...regardless, Guerrero can do whatever he wants in calling out whoever he wants for a good payday. He is a decent enough fighter to challenge someone like Mayweather, will he win? thats another issue.

ed zachary