OFFICIAL NSB Al Haymon managed fighters thread. Discuss & Debate!

[JBell11]

Yeah - the advisor role is another aspect of it - clearly he's doing something but legally an 'advisor' has no responsibilities and cannot be held accountable - he's just some guy giving 'advice' after all. despite his clearly deep and influencial role within the business.

I'm not even saying Haymon is doing anything wrong or illegal, and perhaps it's just personal bias (I do have a prejudice against the rich and powerful, especially when the mechanism of control remains opaque). but I just find his role troublesome...when he was just 'advising' 5 or 10 fighters it was one thing, but his 'clients' now include a wide selection of titleholders, prospects, and the guys that the latter would have to go through to meet the former.

In short, Haymon is rapidly gaining the power to either make you a champion, keep you a champion or deny you the fights required for you to become a champion.

How he chooses to use this power is of course yet to be seen, but I find it hard to believe his interest is in anything other than profit - even if (and it may not, for all my scepticism) that comes at the expense of the sport as a whole and even fewer of the fights we want to see made as fans.

Well put. His "advisorship" is purposefully placed to avoid potential legal ramifications for instance, it's a device to buffer any idea that he is a "manager" of any capacity whether direct or indirect. That legalese is verbatim in the ALI act where a manager and promoter cannot play the same role. However, an advisor is clearly out of that incestuest relationship.

[Horus]

Well put. His "advisorship" is purposefully placed to avoid potential legal ramifications for instance, it's a device to buffer any idea that he is a "manager" of any capacity whether direct or indirect. That legalese is verbatim in the ALI act where a manager and promoter cannot play the same role. However, an advisor is clearly out of that incestuest relationship.

Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/106/hr1832

FIREWALL BETWEEN PROMOTERS AND MANAGERS-

1) IN GENERAL- It is unlawful for--

(A) a promoter to have a direct or indirect financial interest in the management of a boxer; or
(B) a manager--
(i) to have a direct or indirect financial interest in the promotion of a boxer; or
(ii) to be employed by or receive compensation or other benefits from a promoter, except for amounts received as consideration under the manager***8217;s contract with the boxer.

(2) EXCEPTIONS- Paragraph (1)--

(A) does not prohibit a boxer from acting as his own promoter or manager; and
(B) only applies to boxers participating in a boxing match of 10 rounds or more.


Now where is Al Haymon in violation at?

[Bullrider]

Most of the big names in the list were built up by HBO. Mares is the only one fans knew SHO built up. And his highest purse so far was a mere $300K.

SHO needs to spend massive amounts of money to build up new fighters. If not, it can only go downhill for Haymon and Schaefer from here.

[Queen_Leia]

Updated list as of 6/17/14 --


Floyd Mayweather
Adonis Stevenson
Danny Garcia
Milton Santiago
Adrien Broner
Marcos Maidana
Lamont Peterson
Lucas Matthysse
Chad Dawson
Devon Alexander
Peter Quillin
Leo Santa Cruz
Gary Russell Jr.
Austin Trout
Erislandy Lara
Andre Berto
Sakio Bika
Chris Arreola
Deontay Wilder
Edwin Rodriguez
Paul Williams
Pritchard Colon
Robert Guerrero
Amir Khan
Rances Barthelemy
Jermain Taylor
Fernardo Guerrero
Caleb Plant
Omar Figueroa
Shawn Porter
Carlos Molina
Alfredo Angulo
Jermall Charlo
Jermell Charlo
Daniel Jacobs
Dominic Wade
Jamel Herring
Robert Easter
Errol Spence
Gerald Washington
Lorenzo Reynolds
Enrique Ornelas
Librado Andrade
Audley Harrison
Keith Thurman
Chris Pearson
Joseito Lopez
Antonio Tarver
Victor Ortiz
Luis Collazo
BJ Flores
Seth Mitchell
Paulie Malignaggi
Anthony Dirrell
Daquan Arnett
Beibut Shumenov
Rau'shee W.a.r.r.e.n
Anthony Peterson
Terrell Gausha
Dominic Breazeale
Marcus Browne
Marcos Forestal
John Molina
Kyrone Davis
Abner Mares
Marcos Hernandez

[Queen_Leia]

Haymon may have an issue with the 9/13/14 date.

[Queen_Leia]

I must admit, even the most diehard Haymon fan can't defend the Danny Garcia matchup at the Barclay

[Queen_Leia]

Updated list as of 6/27/14 --


Floyd Mayweather
Adonis Stevenson
Danny Garcia
Milton Santiago
Adrien Broner
Marcos Maidana
Lamont Peterson
Lucas Matthysse
Chad Dawson
Devon Alexander
Peter Quillin
Leo Santa Cruz
Gary Russell Jr.
Austin Trout
Erislandy Lara
Andre Berto
Sakio Bika
Chris Arreola
Deontay Wilder
Edwin Rodriguez
Paul Williams
Pritchard Colon
Robert Guerrero
Amir Khan
Rances Barthelemy
Jermain Taylor
Fernardo Guerrero
Caleb Plant
Omar Figueroa
Shawn Porter
Carlos Molina
Alfredo Angulo
Jermall Charlo
Jermell Charlo
Daniel Jacobs
Dominic Wade
Jamel Herring
Robert Easter
Errol Spence
Gerald Washington
Lorenzo Reynolds
Enrique Ornelas
Librado Andrade
Audley Harrison
Keith Thurman
Chris Pearson
Joseito Lopez
Antonio Tarver
Victor Ortiz
Luis Collazo
BJ Flores
Seth Mitchell
Paulie Malignaggi
Anthony Dirrell
Daquan Arnett
Beibut Shumenov
Rau'shee W.a.r.r.e.n
Anthony Peterson
Terrell Gausha
Dominic Breazeale
Marcus Browne
Marcos Forestal
John Molina
Kyrone Davis
Abner Mares
Marcos Hernandez
Joshua Conley

[tomhawq]

wow. i keep seeing this stupid list. it almost seems like it's a natural instinct for floyd worshipers to show a list of haymon fighters to support their doom and gloom theory, "look at this list, hoya is screwed."

i have yet to see an answer from these stupid worshipers a simple question. where are these haymon fighters going to go, if not gbp?

what a bunch of seven year olds.

[Hougigo]

wow. I keep seeing this stupid list. It almost seems like it's a natural instinct for floyd worshipers to show a list of haymon fighters to support their doom and gloom theory, "look at this list, hoya is screwed."

i have yet to see an answer from these stupid worshipers a simple question. Where are these haymon fighters going to go, if not gbp?

What a bunch of seven year olds.

........tmt?

[IMDAZED]

wow. i keep seeing this stupid list. it almost seems like it's a natural instinct for floyd worshipers to show a list of haymon fighters to support their doom and gloom theory, "look at this list, hoya is screwed."

i have yet to see an answer from these stupid worshipers a simple question. where are these haymon fighters going to go, if not gbp?

what a bunch of seven year olds.

And if they work with GBP...what is the problem with that?