Andy Lee was the worst thing that could happen to Chavez Jr.

[Jack Napier]

Lee has nothing to do with it
Martinez is good and better than Chavez
but he's overrated as hell, and Chavez is underrated
Chavez' recent run of opponents>Sergio's
and too much gets made of Sergio's power
people still jocking the Williams 1 punch KO
he hasn't stopped anyone notable in his recent streak
Chavez is a lot bigger and brings a good body attack
Martinez should be favored, but not massively

[Run]

Good thought, I disagree in actual REALITY.

lmao Martinez is going to get merked worse than he did against Marg.

A giant bohemoth who cuts off the ring..........is 12 years younger........hits harder............does nothing but attack the body..........takes a punch better than anyone he faced.

Etc.

Once the Sergio hype train ends, we'll revise all of this.



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[mathed]

It will be all that much sweeter when Martinez has Chavez beaten to a pulp and his own father is on the verge of climbing into the ring to rescue his baby boy from disaster.

[Run]

It will be all that much sweeter when Martinez has Chavez beaten to a pulp and his own father is on the verge of climbing into the ring to rescue his baby boy from disaster.

Martinez is going to be worn down, and destroyed.

Just like he was against Margarito.



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[dan_cov]

I disagree. I think Barker, Macklin & Dzinzuruk are every bit as good as Lee, Zbik, Rubio & Peter Manfredo if not better.

Stopped nobody notable?
Barker had only been down once very briefly, Macklins very durable and Dzinzuruk had never been down in sparring, amateur or pro.

Lee was stopped by dare I say it, Brian Vera.
Manfredo & Rubio aren't the most durable of guys.

[mathed]

Good thought, I disagree in actual REALITY.

lmao Martinez is going to get merked worse than he did against Marg.

A giant bohemoth who cuts off the ring..........is 12 years younger........hits harder............does nothing but attack the body..........takes a punch better than anyone he faced.

Etc.

[Run]

No but seriously,

Martinez has to string together more than 1 punch at a time.

I mean wtf. He's just a small target.



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[dan_cov]

All this is based on Chavez Jrs size lol

I hope you realise that Pavlik on fight night weighed in at a lb short of 180.

Chavez Jr has improved but the guy has no defense at all, hes slow, predictable and can't box at range for ****. Hes a swarmer with no head movement & slow feet, Sergio is going to literally beat this kid to within an inch of his life.

[Jack Napier]

I disagree. I think Barker, Macklin & Dzinzuruk are every bit as good as Lee, Zbik, Rubio & Peter Manfredo if not better.

Stopped nobody notable?
Barker had only been down once very briefly, Macklins very durable and Dzinzuruk had never been down in sparring, amateur or pro.

Lee was stopped by dare I say it, Brian Vera.
Manfredo & Rubio aren't the most durable of guys.

didn't say Chavez has a beastly KO resume
he's not the one getting hyped for a KO streak, Sergio is
those guys aren't all that, Dzinziruk is good at JMW, but not a MW
been liking Chavez' last few fights more than Sergio's
just don't see how Martinez is expected to win easily
thinking he'll get the UD here, but hardly a rollover
the fight will be tough throughout
and if Martinez tries hunting for a KO, he'll be the one KO'd

[DrewWoodside]

Good thought, I disagree in actual REALITY.

lmao Martinez is going to get merked worse than he did against Marg.

A giant bohemoth who cuts off the ring..........is 12 years younger........hits harder............does nothing but attack the body..........takes a punch better than anyone he faced.

Etc.

Once the Sergio hype train ends, we'll revise all of this.

Outside of a shady decision, Chavez isn't winning this fight. Also, no one of note has hit Chavez hard enough or frequently enough for ppl to start claiming Chavez's chin is too good for Martinez.