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What's next for Freddy Roach? Did he just get exposed?!?!
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Originally posted by THE ИATAS View Postwhy does it have to be that pac got "exposed" when simply he had tough fights against those three guys (minus the bradley fight that was a clear win)? That's like saying Ali was "exposed" against Frazier or something silly like that.
I think it's quite clear a 34 year old Pacquiao is past the point of being exposed.
Exposed is a term used for guys that have been protected or whatever and finally step up, not hall of fame fighters that have risen to the occasional multiple times.
It seems on NSB this term is tossed around any time a guy has a tough fight or loses or whatever. "Vitali was exposed by chisora he'll lose to haye!" really? smh.
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Roach has always been a good trainer but criminally overrated. He shouldn't have got in the HOF so soon and especially not the same year Tommy Hearns got in, that shit was disrespectful to a true legend.
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Originally posted by THE ИATAS View Postlike I said before u can't fix a weak chin. I always knew khan would get ko'd again it was only a matter of time. almost every khan fight its in the back of ur head that at any moment a big shot could end him.
not seeing how pac got exposed everyone thought he won. if anything pac is slowing down and is losing his explosiveness.
Absolutely agree.
That's what makes Kahn's fight so exciting, his fights have always been entertaining. One shot and it's ***** street.
Not sure where he goes from here, he's taken massive shots.
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Originally posted by Dudley View Postpac got exposed 3 times against a lil known Mexican fighter, JMM. And though it was a close fight, Bradley used JMM's style to give pac troubles. .Last edited by whirlwind; 07-15-2012, 02:29 AM.
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Originally posted by whirlwind View PostDo you really know what exposed means? If you think Pac was exposed 3 times, so you mean to say Pac was already exposed since the first Marquez fight and that was 8 years ago after 15 other fights but why still nobody cant take advantage of him being exposed? Please don't use the Bradley fight as an example because you will only exposed yourself aa an idiot.
Who is their trainer Freddy "WALMART of boxing" ROACH. One style fits all.
His most recent pupils.
OSCAR LINARES (koed against a counter puncher)
MANNY PAC( if exposed get you pissy, then exploited by a counter puncher)
AMIR KHAN (koed against a counter puncher)
You know who else fights the same Daniel Jacobs...He got koed by....a...counter puncher....hmmmmm
Lateef Kayode fights the same except a very ****ty version or the Volly and have no defense style.
Those are most if not all Roach's top fighters who do the exact same rhythm and style of boxing. When one has a crack in the armor of one you could almost apply it to all of them.
Don't get your panties in a twist. And considering Manny lost not one but four times imo to the same style over various parts of his career. One might used the word exposed my friend.
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Originally posted by jaestix1 View Postwhats the problem with saying pac got exposed??? is that not what happened? anytime you fight a fight a fighter three times when you have the speed, power,weight, youth advantage and you still lose you got exposed. pac is one dimentional just like all of freddie roach's fighers. jmm was 40yrs old for crying out loud!!!!!
Look, a fighter has a particular style. Every fighter has styles they will have problems with. This is simply the fact of boxing. A brawler is going to struggle against a boxer. A defensive fighter may struggle with high volume punchers, etc etc etc. How is that being exposed? That's silly. If you know boxing you know for the most part its simply a matter of style match-ups. This is true for just about any fighter in the world (maybe there is a very tiny percentage of fighters that can adapt to any style, like Mayweather for example, but that's pretty damn rare and probably not even true as I'd bet floyd would struggle against a tall fighter with a long reach who has a great jab (a style he's never really fought before)).
Again, exposed is a term you use for a guy who is protected or whatever. All JMM proved is that he has the style that matches up perfectly against Pac. He is Pac's Norton or Frazier. They can fight 100 times and it's going to be close every time.
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Originally posted by THE ИATAS View Postso Ali was exposed by Norton and Frazier then (after all he fought them both 3 times and all fights were tough and he arguably lost half or most of them) if we use the same logic. Got it.
Look, a fighter has a particular style. Every fighter has styles they will have problems with. This is simply the fact of boxing. A brawler is going to struggle against a boxer. A defensive fighter may struggle with high volume punchers, etc etc etc. How is that being exposed? That's silly. If you know boxing you know for the most part its simply a matter of style match-ups. This is true for just about any fighter in the world (maybe there is a very tiny percentage of fighters that can adapt to any style, like Mayweather for example, but that's pretty damn rare and probably not even true as I'd bet floyd would struggle against a tall fighter with a long reach who has a great jab (a style he's never really fought before)).
Again, exposed is a term you use for a guy who is protected or whatever. All JMM proved is that he has the style that matches up perfectly against Pac. He is Pac's Norton or Frazier. They can fight 100 times and it's going to be close every time.
But I get your point and agree.
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