The difference between simple elite & business elite, in my opinion however unpopular

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  • Bushbaby
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    #81
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    The second one isn't highly disputed.

    He got stopped a few times as a kid, never knocked out like you've said and gathered from Boxrec.

    He then went on to blossom into the best Lightweight of the last era and one of the best Lightweight runs in many many years.
    Stopped are ko's, are they not?? Or just not in a Floyd opponents case? I also didn't say the 2nd 1 was highly disputed. But go ahead correct nothing.

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #82
      Originally posted by Bushbaby
      Stopped are ko's, are they not?? Or just not in a Floyd opponents case? I also didn't say the 2nd 1 was highly disputed. But go ahead correct nothing.
      No, they aren't.

      And I know you didn't say the second was disputied. I was just pointing out the lack of relevance to your statement.

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      • Chuckguy
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        #83
        Originally posted by Bushbaby
        Some elite fighters can fight whoever they feel & get credit for it.

        While other elite fighters can beat the best fighters in or around their weight class & not receive the same kind of credit as the aforementioned.

        It's really simple.
        Ok thanks
        I totally agree with that statement
        Pac and Floydie have been cherry picking their opponents for the past 4-5 years never really challenging themselves.
        besides Ward that participated in a tourney
        name me a few no wait ill make it easier for you
        name me 3 fighters that fit your agenda?

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        • Bushbaby
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          #84
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          No, they aren't.

          And I know you didn't say the second was disputied. I was just pointing out the lack of relevance to your statement.
          If a fight is stopped by the ref or doctor, it's a tko, which in turn goes down as a ko, on the official record.

          It is relevant considering the 1st Castillo-Floyd fight was in fact controversial.

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          • Bushbaby
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            #85
            Originally posted by Chuckguy
            Ok thanks
            I totally agree with that statement
            Pac and Floydie have been cherry picking their opponents for the past 4-5 years never really challenging themselves.
            besides Ward that participated in a tourney
            name me a few no wait ill make it easier for you
            name me 3 fighters that fit your agenda?



            I don't follow the bold bro!?

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #86
              Originally posted by Bushbaby
              If a fight is stopped by the ref or doctor, it's a tko, which in turn goes down as a ko, on the official record.
              No, it doesn't.

              You do know what KO stands for, don't you?

              You do know a KO an a TKO aren't the same thing, don't you?

              That's a genuine question because it wouldn't surprise me if you were unaware of this.

              Originally posted by Bushbaby
              It is relevant considering the 1st Castillo-Floyd fight was in fact controversial.
              The second one, his best win, wasn't.

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              • Bushbaby
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                #87
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                No, it doesn't.

                You do know what KO stands for, don't you?

                You do know a KO an a TKO aren't the same thing, don't you?

                That's a genuine question because it wouldn't surprise me if you were unaware of this.
                It is relevant considering the 1st Castillo-Floyd fight was in fact controversial.[/QUOTE]

                The second one, his best win, wasn't.[/QUOTE]

                Show me which professional record differentiates between ko & tko losses please.

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                • Doctor_Tenma
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Bushbaby
                  The fact that 1 of Floyd's best wins (1 highly disputed) is against a man that's been stopped 4 times prior to their fight shows just how deluded Floyd fans are bro, period. We can leave this convo right there for all I care.
                  It's debatable that Castillo is his best win, where is the argument there?

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby
                    Show me which professional record differentiates between ko & tko losses please.
                    Oh, lord. Please, tell me you're joking. For your own sake, tell me you're joking.

                    You are sadly even more dense than I originally feared.

                    A KO (Knock out) is when you are what the word states, knocked out. When you can't beat the 10 Count.

                    A TKO (Technical knock out) is when you are what those words state, "Technically" knocked out, stopped by another official. Whether it be on the ropes, after a KD and they beat the count, or by the doctor etc.

                    Here's an easy example for you, go on your favourite site, Boxrec, and type in Ricky Hatton.

                    Look at the result next to Manny Pacquaio. Which is; KO 2.

                    Then look at the result next to Floyd Mayweather. Which is; TKO 10.

                    That's the difference.

                    Out of all the moronic things you've said, Malignaggi and Bailey being better wins at WW than Khan for Mayweather, Kessler and Froch wins for Ward eqauling Pacquaio's wins over Barrera and Marquez, Pascal being a better win for Hopkins than anything Mayweather and Pacquaio have done, the list goes on and on, this by far eclipses them

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                    • Bushbaby
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
                      It's debatable that Castillo is his best win, where is the argument there?
                      I didn't say Castillo was bro, I suggest you go ask Dunn or iron why they felt the need to say so not me.

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