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  • Zab Super Judah
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    #71
    my point was that judah has a great shot at beating tsyzu especially since he has had a couple fights at 147 already.........i never said JUDAH WAS A ALL TIME GREAT

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      #72
      WTF all these McKay guys been smoking. Judah already got a fight scheduled for him. Cosmo Rivera is his mandatory.
      BTW Zab Super Judah if Tszyu will fight Judah this year or early next year we gotta make a bet.

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      • DamienFromTheAshes
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        #73
        Why is it so hard to imagine Judah beating Trinidad? Tito isn't that impressive of a fighter, besides power. He sucks as a boxer. Pretty one dimensional. Wright will probably beat him, let alone Judah.

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          #74
          Originally posted by DamienFromTheAshes
          Why is it so hard to imagine Judah beating Trinidad? Tito isn't that impressive of a fighter, besides power. He sucks as a boxer. Pretty one dimensional. Wright will probably beat him, let alone Judah.
          I can imagine this fight can go like Trinidad/Reid where Judah will outbox Trinidad as long as he des not get caught. Trinindads
          movement is just as good as Roy Jones'es rap and that is where Judah can capitalise by just pot shooting. but if he get careles and get caught he is ****ed. saying this I would still make Trinindad the favourite in this match up.

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          • The Troll
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            #75
            Originally posted by DamienFromTheAshes
            Why is it so hard to imagine Judah beating Trinidad? Tito isn't that impressive of a fighter, besides power. He sucks as a boxer. Pretty one dimensional. Wright will probably beat him, let alone Judah.

            Tito is not that impressive as fighter? He only TKO'd Fernado Vargas, destroyed Mayorga, UD'd David Reid, MD Oscar De La Hoya, TKO 5 Williams Joppy, UD Pernell Whitaker in 1999, TKO 8 Oba "moter city" Carr, UD hector "macho" camacho in 1994, and made 15 successfull defences of the IBF Welterweight tile between 1993 and 2000, before unifying it with WBC by his victory over De La Hoya. Then vacated both belts and went to light middleweight. Where he won the Ligth middleweight title from Reid and defended it 4 times before loosing a a UD to hopkins (his only loss). He had both the WBA and IBF middleweight titles before loosing the UD to hopkins. But Ok he is not that impressive, Judah is levels ahead of himm or at least on teh same level, with his win over Corey Spinks, jan bergman and micky ward.

            Spinks only won a Majority descision against Ricardo Mayorga, you would think such a p4p superstar as Spinks could do better.

            Not to mentoni Tito has 35KO's in 42 wins mostly against championship caliber opposition.
            Last edited by The Troll; 04-12-2005, 12:04 AM.

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              #76
              Zab won the 1st round. His problem is the nerves. Of course in the 2nd fight Kostya would be a favourite but if Judah has a discipline he would be a winner.

              Kostya doesn’t create, he uses his opponents mistakes. The path to the victory over Tszyu is a path with no mistakes.
              Last edited by Diricul; 06-01-2005, 11:44 AM.

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                #77
                If Zab will make so many mistakes and let his bad nerves to cotrol him he has a chance go to the Olympics as a member of the artistical gymnastics team
                Originally posted by jswa17
                Zab has the speed and the skills to confuse Kostya, but not enough power to knock him down. However, Kostya's power was proven in their first match, I say Kostya stalks Zab and finally catches him just like the first bout...but Zab will be more careful this time so it'll take awhile until he drops...
                I don’t agree. Zab has a wild punch and Ko was down in the fights against the boxers with the weaker shots – I’m about Pineda, Vince and Hurtado.
                Originally posted by Nautilus
                I hope that Spinks will take a close decision over Zab and go on to fight Tzsyu. I think that that will be a much better fight than Chicken Dance II.
                I agree – Spinks’ nerves are better than Zab’s ones. And Zab’s style is more dangerous to Cory than Kostya’s one.
                Last edited by Diricul; 06-01-2005, 11:43 AM.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  Judah is not even in the same league as Tzyu. He could not hang in with him for 2 rounds the first time. Judah looses to Gatti, Mayweather, Cotto, Hatton, Tzyu,Harris, Mitchell.

                  Why should Tzyu leave the best divisoin in boxing to go up to the weakass welterweight divison. There are so many better fights are jr. welterweight. LIke all teh guys listed above. Corey Spinks is even at 154 now. The only other name fighters at welterweigt are Margorito and Cintron.
                  Judahs’ skills are in the the same league as Tszyus’ and Judahs’ talent is even bigger but his stability and psychology are at the amateur level.
                  Zab couldn’t beat Arturo, Floyd, it’s extremely hard to him to beat Kostya and Vivian but others are the easy work for him.
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  Tzyu is levels ahead of Judah based on the fact they alrady fought and Tzyu stopped him in 2.
                  It’s just an indicator of that time Zab’s nerves condition.
                  Originally posted by McKay
                  Judah needs to gain some quality wins against top level opponents like Sharamba Mitchel Corley or something before he ever deserves a chance to fight Tzyu.
                  It’s true.
                  Last edited by Diricul; 06-01-2005, 11:49 AM.

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                    #79
                    I think its fair to say that in Zab's last three fights it does seem like he has got used to 147 and is all buisness.

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                    • Diricul
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by McKay
                      Corley beat Judah but was robbed by the judges he should rematch with him. Judah is on the level of Corley which is like 3 levels below where Tzyu is.
                      You should see that Judah did nothing in the ring that night because of the lack of discipline and will. The one time he tried he KDed Demarkus.
                      Originally posted by McKay
                      Corey Spinks also beat nobody to distiguis himself as a world class fighter. He beat the vastly overrated Zab Judah by UD and beat Ricardo Mayorga only by Majority descision, what a world beater you got there, and thats Judah's best win.
                      Slick question, man. So tell me please whom did Ko beat? Judah was his greatest win... The others was boxers past his prime and overrated ones like Sharmba...
                      Originally posted by McKay
                      Judah still needs to prove he is superior to fighters like Corley before he can start worrying about the big boys.
                      One fight will be enough I think.
                      Originally posted by NAB
                      Judah hit Tszyu with a big uppercut in round one, but didn't 'hurt' him. Tszyu felt the punch, but did not lose his legs, his eyes were clear, and he was moving forward again within 10 seconds.
                      It wasn't Judahs’ ace. His aces are direct left shot and left hook. That punch was just another shot that Zab landed. And Kostya KOed him by his real ace.
                      Last edited by Diricul; 06-01-2005, 11:51 AM.

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