Is Pacquiao in a bad position?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Jedi Vader
    Lord Of The Force
    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
    • Apr 2008
    • 6362
    • 480
    • 1,177
    • 86,521

    #1

    Is Pacquiao in a bad position?

    http://www.e astsideboxing.com/news.php?p=32627&more=1

    Manny Pacquiao WILL be fighting on November 10, 2012, but against whom? Names on the Pacquiao short list are the usual suspects: Mayweather, Cotto, Marquez; as well as recent foe Timothy Bradley. No one else will satisfy the insatiable urges of boxing fans, especially those loyal to the Philippines native son.

    Pacquiao in the past week has given the go ahead to make a fight against Mayweather who’s going into his 32nd day of incarceration of an 87 day sentence after a failed attempt to be released to house arrest. It’s almost a sure bet that Mayweather – who was named the TOP paid athlete, won’t be fighting again in 2012.

    Miguel Cotto who recently lost to Mayweather in a hotly contested bout has scheduled his next fight for December 1, 2012 in Madison Square Garden, having only recently became a free agent after his contract with Top Rank expired in late 2011. Don’t think Cotto has any intentions of acquiescing to the demands of Pacquiao putting himself at a disadvantage, as he was made to do when the two met in 2009, while Cotto was still under the Top Rank banner.

    This writer thinks that Cotto’s scheduled date has a Mayweather rematch written all over it because it gives Mayweather a month to rest and reacclimatize himself after his jail term is up with some time left to arrange and promote this rematch. Also, being free from his Top Rank contract allows Cotto to see more of his purse than before, cutting Arum out of the 27% share of Cotto’s purse that he was used to getting. Don’t think that Cotto wants to give Top Rank any future options (and money out of his purse)that he might have to by fighting Pacquiao either. But…as I said before I don’t think Mayweather takes Cotto up on his offer, until next year.

    Juan Manuel Marquez is hoping that Pacquiao will fight him a 4th time, in Mexico – where he also hopes he can get fair judging this time around, having fought 3-controversially scored bouts already against Pacquiao. Doubt Pacquiao takes Marquez up on his offer to fight a 4th time, maybe losing BIG against the WBO 140lb champion, losing his BIG fight against Mayweather in the process.

    Contrary to what Bob Arum says…it looks like the only viable option for Pacquiao is a Timothy Bradley rematch. With all of the uproar surrounding the scoring of the 1st fight, expect the 2nd fight to be scored much more accurately, which will be in Pacquiao’s favor. Also to be considered is Bradley’s lack of punching power, which gives Pacquiao the best chance of winning without worrying about losing by KO, which would definitely throw the BIG MONEY Mayweather fight out of the window. But…and there’s always a but; Pacquiao could LOSE very convincingly to Bradley which would make a Mayweather fight a mute point, there’s a 70% chance that he will lose.

    In concluding Pacquiao has very tough decisions to make: he can’t fight a nobody, he can’t lose, and he needs higher PPV buys to negotiate a Mayweather fight and get the 50/50 split he’s seeking. All of this while Money Mayweather does his pushups, sit-ups and jailhouse burpees from a Las Vegas jail cell.
  • Hougigo
    Gossip Girl
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • Sep 2011
    • 38755
    • 730
    • 236
    • 47,223

    #2
    I'm getting sick of hearing all this negotiating crap.
    Everyone is still holding on to the fact the two will fight......
    One of them would have to really break down and I think the person closest to that is Manny. If he loses his next fight, he either takes whatever deal from Mayweather or retire.... or keep fighting obscure opponents for money

    Comment

    • Bushbaby
      Wild Apache
      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
      • Dec 2008
      • 23513
      • 727
      • 370
      • 32,078

      #3
      Cotto isn't draining himself for Pacman.

      Arum never wanted the Floyd fight. (Rather worthless now anyway).

      Pacman will not receive another gift against Marquez.

      Bradley will be healthy this time around.

      Yeah, I'd say Pacman is screwed.

      Comment

      • Jedi Vader
        Lord Of The Force
        Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
        • Apr 2008
        • 6362
        • 480
        • 1,177
        • 86,521

        #4
        While Pac is bound to Arum's will, no Floyd-Pac fight will ever happen.

        Comment

        • Jedi Vader
          Lord Of The Force
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • Apr 2008
          • 6362
          • 480
          • 1,177
          • 86,521

          #5
          Originally posted by Bushbaby
          Cotto isn't draining himself for Pacman.

          Arum never wanted the Floyd fight. (Rather worthless now anyway).

          Pacman will not receive another gift against Marquez.

          Bradley will be healthy this time around.

          Yeah, I'd say Pacman is screwed.
          I agree with all that apart from the bolded. It's the biggest fight to be made and still has a bit of intrigue to it.

          Comment

          • littlemac
            Who Necks!
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Mar 2006
            • 5244
            • 331
            • 56
            • 13,500

            #6
            The only thing that is in the decline in Pac, is his choices of cherry picks. Manny either retires or gets exposed again cause everyone left schools Manny. Manny's done folks!!!

            Comment

            • Bushbaby
              Wild Apache
              Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
              • Dec 2008
              • 23513
              • 727
              • 370
              • 32,078

              #7
              Originally posted by Jedi Vader
              I agree with all that apart from the bolded. It's the biggest fight to be made and still has a bit of intrigue to it.
              There is nothing intriguing about paying 80 bucks to see Floyd batter Pacman from pillar to post at this point in time.

              Comment

              • pnksntdead
                Interim Champion
                Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
                • Oct 2004
                • 677
                • 38
                • 3
                • 14,830

                #8
                "mute" point and 70% chance of pac losing to bradley.. sheesh, who are these "writers"?

                Comment

                • ..WaRSpencE..
                  .::Orgullo Mexicano::.
                  Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 6316
                  • 310
                  • 132
                  • 13,727

                  #9
                  Pacquiao isn't hungry anymore..Arum, Roach, Ariza and Koncz need to realize this before he goes out there and gets embarrassed..

                  Pacquiao has found God in his life and is satisfied with his achievements, it's really time to hang them up, it's not in his heart to KO or hurt an opponent anymore, he's got nothing left to prove..

                  Pacquiao-Mayweather has lost all the steam in the world, obviously with great marketing it'll pick back up, but it's not what it once was..I think Mayweather has a few great fights left in him based off style, but Pacquiao is done IMO, he doesn't need anymore Money, Belts, or divisions, he's done it all and has it all..Pacquiao is in a great Position to walk away and still have his dignity. just my opinion

                  Comment

                  • Jedi Vader
                    Lord Of The Force
                    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 6362
                    • 480
                    • 1,177
                    • 86,521

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby
                    There is nothing intriguing about paying 80 bucks to see Floyd batter Pacman from pillar to post at this point in time.
                    Sorry Bro, I thought that until the Cotto fight. I fully expect Floyd to school Pac comprenhensively but I was surprised at how many jabs Cotto landed on Floyd. That gives Pac a glimmer of hope in landing a power shot.

                    Comment

                    Working...
                    TOP