(pic)Ortiz at hospital after surgery

[intoccabile]

Well then you have my sincere apologies in assuming you had no fight experience and good luck with your career. I'd like to see some of your fights in the future to see just how well you can deal with adversity and pain. You talk a good game, not doubting you but I'm just curious if you practice what your preach.

I don't agree with you on the topic we have discussed so we can just agree to disagree.

For the record, I'm a bit of a headcase too. I'm hoping it doesn't become my Achilles heel. But I'll admit to having times where I didn't appreciate the blood flow from my nose (i'm not use to it, it's something that never happens) and wished I could get the hell out of there LOL. But, work is work, we get through it and work on why the nose bled in the first place. But by definition (as i call it), things like that would make me a headcase. God forbid I have those thoughts when it actually means something and then I for whatever reason try to find a way out. You know?

It's entirely possible. I'm a realist above all, I don't put myself above anyone, we're all human. I could very well be a headcase too.. but we go hard here in Philly, so I'm hoping not.

[intoccabile]

You don't seem to get the simple concept here. Emotion ≠ mental lapse.

Anyway, we'll see how you handle a broken jaw in your future, if it ever happens.

I've handled it well. I wasn't fighting though, but I broke my jaw wrestling in high school. I lost in the pub, but i finished the match. I am an extremely competitive person and the type of guy who breaks stuff when he loses. I just refuse to lose. It sucks and it will probably get me killed one day, but hey.

[MadGuerreroMax]

He quit. I dont care what anyone says and I was a fan. Also, dont forget 2 things. No one is claiming that he didnt not break his jaw so IDK why people keep saying "see, look at that".

Also, this pic is "post surgery". I had my wisdom tooth taken out on Friday and my jaw was even bigger than that. The point is could he have "tried" to go out in the 10th, stay on the outside, and see what happens? He doesnt have to finish. Just try and be mentally tough. If its too much then you can quit but he didnt.

Im not buying the 5th round stuff either. Again, Ortiz was the one who said it happened in the 9th himself but everyone is now going to believe his team who is trying to save face. The same team who was upset and tried to stop him from quitting?

Good kid but oh well. I wouldnt be smiling right now. His hole career just took a huge step back

Now this guy is clearly defined as a hater
I am a fan of Ortiz and was at a shock bc I did not know why my guy quit.(while fight was going on), but that doesn't mean I am going to say he is a p***y after knowing his jaw was broke. Be a true fan and not some douche. It is clear you don't care about a person's health and prefer the Gladiator fights with deaths. Grow up be civilized. FYI just bc ur a human and got surgery that ended up far worse than a man with greater injury does not mean S**T.... Ortiz got top dollar care you on the other hand didn't or maybe it could be bc Ortiz had upgraded technology or a better surgical team etc.... My point is nobody cares about your tooth n ur childish attitude ()...... Hope Ortiz gets well and he still has time to be a champ.

[boliodogs]

I think I was to hard on Ortiz right after the fight because of what happened in the Maidana and Mayweather fights. After getting the facts I don't think he was wrong to quit when he did.I look foward to the rematch if it happens. I think Ortiz will win next time.

[fceeviper]

Good luck with your healing Victor, I look forward to seeing you back in the ring!

[1 HitterQuitter]

I dont think he's smiling on purpose, i think the doctors wired his jaw so he would have a permanent smile

Now he's always smiling Joker style

[1q3er5]

That's why he's one of the most exciting and dangerous fighters in the game..... Lol

that kid too nice for boxing.
you can tell he enjoys every bit of media and attention, but having that true warrior mentality thats just not him.

i wish him all the best though

ya real nice guy with the rabbit punches...wtf is up with that and then after he is SUPER apologetic! what a weirdo

[johnm is...]

ya real nice guy with the rabbit punches...wtf is up with that and then after he is SUPER apologetic! what a weirdo

I think he does it, thinking he'll get away with it. Then he gets caught, and he apologizes.

Not sorry he did it, but sorry he got caught doing it.

[El Angel]

Needs to get revenge on Josesito.

[DLT]

Now this guy is clearly defined as a hater
I am a fan of Ortiz and was at a shock bc I did not know why my guy quit.(while fight was going on), but that doesn't mean I am going to say he is a p***y after knowing his jaw was broke. Be a true fan and not some douche. It is clear you don't care about a person's health and prefer the Gladiator fights with deaths. Grow up be civilized. FYI just bc ur a human and got surgery that ended up far worse than a man with greater injury does not mean S**T.... Ortiz got top dollar care you on the other hand didn't or maybe it could be bc Ortiz had upgraded technology or a better surgical team etc.... My point is nobody cares about your tooth n ur childish attitude ()...... Hope Ortiz gets well and he still has time to be a champ.

Im the definition of a hater? You clown ass Noob or dirty ass alt. My rep is set around here. Dont come on here questioning me because I have an opinion that you dont agree with.

1st off I had my wisdom tooth pulled and its normal for alot of people's jaw to swell so why are you saying all that extra **** about money & care? It doesnt even make sense.

2nd, I never called him a ***** so dont put words in my mouth, *****. I like gladiator fights with death yet Im probably the #1 guy on this forum who sticks up for pure boxers the much and say that there is nothing better than a high speed chess match? Again, know wtf youre talkin about.

So I dont care about Victor's health because I said he should go out & try? If you read all my other post, my stance is that he should just try to stick, move, jab, run because the fight is close and its not like Lopez is some killer. Lopez is also beat up.

I never said Ortiz is a ***** who should finish the fight. I said he quit because he didnt try to come out for the 10th. He gave up immediatly. If he came out for the 10th, took a couple of hard shots and saw it was too much then its ok for him to stop but my point is to try to see 1st.

Instead, he paniced. I dont care what anyone says. He paniced. He didnt even try to hear his corner out, reason, or anything. He basically pushed his corner out the way and screamed for the ref to stop the fight. Now if you dont agree then fine.

I respect everyone's opinion. Now respect mine before you call someone at hater who you know nothing about. Ive been on here since 04 and am well respected. Everyone knows I dont talk **** so dont start labeling someone