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  • #71
    Watched the fight for a 3rd time again on Showtime. I member here mentioned that the jaw might have been broken during the 7th round on another thread. I pay special attention to the 7th round and it seems it indeed it broke on that round. It seems like uppercuts from Lopez did it. Then the last minute of the 9th round were Lopez landed a good hook did sealed the damage that Ortiz can't take the pain no more.

    I still call Ortiz a quitter against Maidana but against Lopez, can't call him that.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by radioraheem View Post
      Easier said than done. Ortiz had his jaw broken with what, one shot? One shot that happened in a matter of seconds. Maybe you are right in that he could have gone on and everything would be cool. But maybe you are dearly wrong and Ortiz would have suffered that much more damaging and severe punishment. So much so his entire career would be toast.

      Anytime a severe injury like that occurs, the fight should be stopped! Ortiz should not have been the one to throw in the towel himself. His trainer, doctor, etc, are not looking after his best interest -- his health.

      Oriz could have told the ref that he didn't want to quit. Then the ref would have called in the doctor to look at it. The doctor could have determined if he was in danger.

      I wouldn't expect a boxer to think that through in the middle of a fight though, especially a head case like Ortiz.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Shogunofharlem1 View Post
        That and the fact that the signs were there he was going to either shutdown or look for a way out. (The inane fouling along with huge retreats whenever Lopez showed any type of confidence)
        He was winning!

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Rikanlynx86 View Post
          Money was pretty much already in the bank. I assume you are one of these macho keyboard never been near a pair of glove soldiers who calls a pro fighter a *****. Yea pretty much.... Respect the man who entertains you by going into a ring and puts life on line. If thats not enough for you, then pleaseee, show us how its done.
          The "money" refers to future earnings. His career having toughed out a win (or even a draw) would have a totally different trajectory than it does now.

          Ortiz does not risk his life in the ring. I don't know how you could have that idea.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by APryor View Post
            Oriz could have told the ref that he didn't want to quit. Then the ref would have called in the doctor to look at it. The doctor could have determined if he was in danger.

            I wouldn't expect a boxer to think that through in the middle of a fight though, especially a head case like Ortiz.
            That's what does not make him a headcase moron! He could think it through.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
              Unfortunately in prizefighting, health hazards are part of the job description. If one is too concerned or afraid for their long-term health, then they are in the wrong profession. They shouldn't be fighting professionally in the first place. This is why boxers are paid so handsomely to take these risks because the sport itself is so dangerous.
              Easy to say from the sidelines!

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              • #77
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                Well he did just that. With this loss, he threw away a potential big payday with Saul Alvarez, on the horizon by tapping out of this fight, with just three rounds to go and with him being comfortably ahead on the official judges scorecards. All he had to do was to finish all twelve rounds on his feet and he would've been awarded not only the win but the future big payday with Alvarez as well.

                Secondly, you asked for who? For none other than himself; As a professional fighter, he knew all the risks involved with this sport but yet he chose a career to compete in it anyway. Also, for the fans; He owed it to them since he is getting paid so much money to assume all the necessary risks and sacrifices to his health in ensuring his best for a victory.

                Lastly you asked for what? He shouldn't have done it because it not only harms his reputation but his legacy as well. He will not be remembered as a fighter who stepped between that squared circle and gave it his all but one who would hold a lot of himself back and crack anytime he was facing any type of strong opposition and adversity.

                In closing, to the sport itself; A boxer should not be awarded for quitting against an over matched and outclassed opponent whom he is clearly dominating. In the long run, it brings more shame and dishonor upon the sport itself.
                You're wrong the fight would only happen if he won without injury.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                  Unfortunately in prizefighting, health hazards are part of the job description. If one is too concerned or afraid for their long-term health, then they are in the wrong profession. They shouldn't be fighting professionally in the first place. This is why boxers are paid so handsomely to take these risks because the sport itself is so dangerous.
                  What's your point, and how does this apply to a fighter who had his jaw broken in a fight.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by apocalypto View Post
                    Yeah man lets encourage fighters to quit when it get tough in there. Bc after all he will get another shot on a premium network.
                    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Ca...ing_Fatalities

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                      Well he did just that. With this loss, he threw away a potential big payday with Saul Alvarez, on the horizon by tapping out of this fight, with just three rounds to go and with him being comfortably ahead on the official judges scorecards. All he had to do was to finish all twelve rounds on his feet and he would've been awarded not only the win but the future big payday with Alvarez as well.

                      Secondly, you asked for who? For none other than himself; As a professional fighter, he knew all the risks involved with this sport but yet he chose a career to compete in it anyway. Also, for the fans; He owed it to them since he is getting paid so much money to assume all the necessary risks and sacrifices to his health in ensuring his best for a victory.

                      Lastly you asked for what? He shouldn't have done it because it not only harms his reputation but his legacy as well. He will not be remembered as a fighter who stepped between that squared circle and gave it his all but one who would hold a lot of himself back and crack anytime he was facing any type of strong opposition and adversity.

                      In closing, to the sport itself; A boxer should not be awarded for quitting against an over matched and outclassed opponent whom he is clearly dominating. In the long run, it brings more shame and dishonor upon the sport itself.
                      This is the mind of a clueless, sick ****. Only an armchair fan could utter such ******ity, lmao.

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