Bob Arum + Chavez Jr + Martinez =

[F l i c k e r]

1. Do you think Martinez is on something?

2. Do you think Chavez Jr is on something?

1. I have no reason to.

2. A guy who skips post-fight drug screening? Smells like fish.

[Phantomas]

It is like a trend lately, some fighters demand extra testing because think it should weak their rivals, hope they make some mistake screening the peds, and make themselves look like fair gentleman, but ooops they forget they are ped users too and get catched. Honest boxers donīt seem to bother demanding this stuff, they know what they are fighting and just work extra hard to achieve their goals.

[DefThatGuy]

LOL Honest fighters unwilling to take tests arent Honest . Theyre unwilling because they'd test off the meters in illegal substances.

Its ok all these fighters that are avoiding testing will all suffer the Barry Bonds Legacy fate.

[SCEN3RY]

BoxingScenery 1st of all no Alt i dont understand whats up with this obsession of everyone thinking that there is always an ALT if they dont agree with your point of view.

yeah that's what it is, don't recall saying whether I was for or against your point of view, I'm neither really....I'm su****ious of everyone testing or not...hence the post - even testing to me is inconclusive of who's clean and who's not. I mean what's "clean?" If taking EPO and being in a hypobaric chamber have the same effect, what's the difference again? Oh yeah, one's quicker and the other's legal and yet the effect on the body is the same.

I only found this place because Fighthype was blocked at work. The forum (not the actual main site) here isnt so i decided to join after about 2 months of lurking.

no need to explain. if you're not an alt, and I'll believe you're not, then glad to have you along.

Moving on I get what your saying but. If the people that say that theyre willing to take the test and still get caught. What does that say about the people that REFUSE to get tested?

The last two guys to request testing, were the ones who were caught. My worry is, what about their regiment or their past or who they're talking to or what they've heard tells them they could still get away with it...I mean these guys obviously didn't request extra testing with wishful thinking they won't get caught, something lead them to believe they'd be considered "clean" athletes....that's just as scary as those that refuse testing. As I see it, either everyone's innocent until proven otherwise, or no one can be truly considered innocent...there is no middle ground.

[immortal tech]

It is like a trend lately, some fighters demand extra testing because think it should weak their rivals, hope they make some mistake screening the peds, and make themselves look like fair gentleman, but ooops they forget they are ped users too and get catched. Honest boxers donīt seem to bother demanding this stuff, they know what they are fighting and just work extra hard to achieve their goals.

is it 2010 why are we back to drug testing make you weak?
extra testing saved honest boxers Ortiz and Khan who said they will ask for random testing from now on in every fight

[ronnie_N.]

yes I just want him to take the test, chavez jr is ducking the tests harder than pac was in 2009-2011 and they both use the same trainer and strength and conditioning coach

if i'm not mistaken, amir khan also uses the same trainer and conditioning coach... but the one who pushes for these tests is the one who was caught cheating (PEDterson)

[Phantomas]

LOL Honest fighters unwilling to take tests arent Honest . Theyre unwilling because they'd test off the meters in illegal substances.

Its ok all these fighters that are avoiding testing will all suffer the Barry Bonds Legacy fate.

Maybe they just donīt like needles Honestly I donīt like needles, I wouldnīt bother just because some guy that wishes to break my face wants to play mental games.

is it 2010 why are we back to drug testing make you weak?
extra testing saved honest boxers Ortiz and Khan who said they will ask for random testing from now on in every fight

Maybe because they think one would be forced to decrease the dosis?.

Ps.- Iīm not defending Jr., I believe he is a ped user just like Martínez.

[immortal tech]

Maybe they just donīt like needles Honestly I donīt like needles, I wouldnīt bother just because some guy that wishes to break my face wants to play mental games.



Maybe because they think one would be forced to decrease the dosis?.

this is boxing bro if you don't like needles then you're in the wrong game considering all the screening you have to go through before you're approved to fight.
IDK if you're serious with decreasing doses? both Peterson and Berto would have been cleared to fight under normal testing because "doses" were low enough

[Phantomas]

this is boxing bro if you don't like needles then you're in the wrong game considering all the screening you have to go through before you're approved to fight.
IDK if you're serious with decreasing doses? both Peterson and Berto would have been cleared to fight under normal testing because "doses" were low enough

You donīt have to quote me to the letter, Iīm speaking hypothetically. I donīt know how somebody can be so rigorous about this subject and still be a fan of Jordan.

[Russian Crushin]

has there ever been a fighter who has an upcoming fight and he was the only one taking extra testing? i think extra testing should be done for both fighters. it's only fair, plus martinez isn't the one being accused or has a history of using banned substances.

Why not? Thats the thing that i dont get, why not?

There wont be testing with a fight with JCC so why doesnt Sergio just have himself tested to at least prove that he's clean?