What I dont understand about Chavez Junior is that....

[Rome-By-Ko]

.....the first time I saw a fight of him, he looked like an average fighter. I saw his fight against average Troy Rowland 3 years ago on the undercard of Pacquiao-Cotto, and Chavez had nothing. He couldn't hurt his opponent, he couldn't outbox him, he couldn't do sh't. And now suddenly he beats up top level opponents, experienced fighters and Olympic medalists? One after the other? For Real? Is the Roach training working wonders? Maybe.
Cause all of Chavez' last opponents said he was physically too big and too strong. Rubio said it and now Andy Lee said the same thing ("I couldn't hurt him or move him with my punches"). And we definitely saw how Chavez was physically too big for Sebastian Zbik and outweighed him also by many many pounds.
Is Chavez suddenly a new fighter? Is he suddenly two levels above what he was 3 years ago? If yes, I have to congratulate him, cause only hard work can get you to a new level.
What do you guys think about Chavez and the fighter he became?
Btw I'm sick of Chavez "calling out" Sergio Martinez in his postfight interviews when in truth he is running from him since years.

I don't wanna accuse Jr. of any wrong doing before there is any proof..So I'll go with this..Jr. has taken his time and grown in confidence and experience..He is a very big guy,I'll say he grew into his body and filled out nicely..

[Eg714]

Chavez jr has always been a pretty big fighter but wasn't always in the best of shape. For this fight he absolutely was in shape. H can in this fight looking really strong. I think that's why he's looking better because he added a lot more strength working with ariza. He's always had a solid chin but now he's starting to put it all together.

[Russian Crushin]

He didnt avoid a piss test.

He couldnt piss before the fight so the commission agreed to simply do it after the fight, which is the regular protocal anyway

[RapidFire26]

He didnt avoid a piss test.

He couldnt piss before the fight so the commission agreed to simply do it after the fight, which is the regular protocal anyway

And regardless su****ions still remain given his failed test in 2009 and the fact he has rejected OST for the Martinez fight thus far. Also, even if he is not on a PED then I would like to see how he does against similar-sized fighters before lavishing tons of praise upon him.

[DoubleMM]

He didnt avoid a piss test.

He couldnt piss before the fight so the commission agreed to simply do it after the fight, which is the regular protocal anyway

What's your excuse for his last fight against Rubio where he dodged a drug test then. Texas Commision said they couldn't find him.

[Light_Speed]

Beating up top level fighters? LOL Rubio and Lee are not top level fighters, Lee got knocked out by a B level fighter before and Rubio is a journeyman. The thing is Chavez is getting bigger and bigger but he keeps fighting in the same division so he enjoys a serious size advantage over his opponents now.

[ksan]

He didnt avoid a piss test.

He couldnt piss before the fight so the commission agreed to simply do it after the fight, which is the regular protocal anyway

Nice Avi, good to see we have Lomachenko fans here

[ksan]

Beating up top level fighters? LOL Rubio and Lee are not top level fighters, Lee got knocked out by a B level fighter before and Rubio is a journeyman. The thing is Chavez is getting bigger and bigger but he keeps fighting in the same division so he enjoys a serious size advantage over his opponents now.

They are World Rank Middleweight fighters

So that equals to you to being bums?

Then almost all the fighters at MW are journeymans and bums to you, wow

And what if he gets bigger, he's making the weight when it matters, plenty of fighters do this, but of course the haters gonna hate, they can't stand to see Chavez Jr. suceed

[Russian Crushin]

And regardless su****ions still remain given his failed test in 2009 and the fact he has rejected OST for the Martinez fight thus far. Also, even if he is not on a PED then I would like to see how he does against similar-sized fighters before lavishing tons of praise upon him.

He did that yesterday, lee is just as big as JCC

What's your excuse for his last fight against Rubio where he dodged a drug test then. Texas Commision said they couldn't find him.

No excuse but Texas simply didnt perform one, its mostly their fault

[Light_Speed]

They are World Rank Middleweight fighters

So that equals to you to being bums?

Then almost all the fighters at MW are journeymans and bums to you, wow

And what if he gets bigger, he's making the weight when it matters, plenty of fighters do this, but of the haters gonna hate, they can't stand to see Chavez Jr. suceed

Where did I write the word "bum" in my post? Do you think fighters can only be placed into the "top level" or "bum" categories with nothing in between?

Rubio IS a journeyman, I don't think any rational person will deny that. That doesn't make him a bum. Journeyman =/= bum.

Are you one of those girls who wear mexican flag headbands in Chavez entourage? LOL why are you so butthurt, there was nothing hateful in my post I was just explaining to TS why Chavez is dominating his opponents. Size advantage is a big factor. Never said he was the only one to do it.