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  • loui_ludwig
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    #51
    Since the JMM fight was mention:
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1595865
    Among the unofficial scorers above, 57 scored the bout for Marquez, 51 scored the bout for Pacquiao, and the remaining 36 scored the bout a draw.

    This is Bradley figth:
    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1656951
    Among the experts above, 118 scored the bout for Pacquiao, 1 scored the bout a draw, and 1 scored the bout for Bradley.

    See the difference? I know you do but won't admit it.

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    • Bermuda
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      #52
      Originally posted by loui_ludwig
      Since the JMM fight was mention:
      http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1595865
      Among the unofficial scorers above, 57 scored the bout for Marquez, 51 scored the bout for Pacquiao, and the remaining 36 scored the bout a draw.

      This is Bradley figth:
      http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1656951
      Among the experts above, 118 scored the bout for Pacquiao, 1 scored the bout a draw, and 1 scored the bout for Bradley.

      See the difference? I know you do but won't admit it.
      yah i thought the marquez fight was closer than the pac vs bradley fight for sure....

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      • Luilun
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        #53
        Originally posted by Iron Boat
        Notice how pac fans conveniently ignore this
        When clinched and constant wrist punching like a little kid isn't counted as body punch landed they won't even count it as a punch landed in the amatuer ranks, Those were the only so called body punches Bradley landed. I'm suprise Bradley having a Mexican trainer he can't even throw a correct hooks to the liver that's learned in your first year of boxing when trained by a mexican

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        • boliodogs
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          #54
          Originally posted by hitking
          If you notice in my post I said "I purposely gave Bradley all the close rounds.". That's the reason for the 8-4 score. The reality is, I could have easily scored the fight 8-4 for Pac is I had given him all the close rounds. The point I was trying to get across is that there were a lot more close rounds than I initially had thought.
          I am a veteran fight watcher and fight scorer. I can remember when boxing judges scored lots of rounds even. In an average 12 round fight most judges would score 2 or even 3 of the 12 rounds even. Lots of rounds are even. Just to close to call. The even round is a tool that should be used and I still use it when I am scoring fights. Today scoring a round even seems to be discouraged and you don't see any judges scoring rounds even. Bringing back the use of the even round when there is no clear winner of the round might help reduce the number of terrible decisions. I doubt that will happen just like I doubt they will bring back weigh ins on the day of the fight which was a better way.

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          • tlarry
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            #55
            U Clowns Can't Compare Pacquiao/Marquez to Pacquiao/Bradley

            Pacquiao/ Marquez was a very close war. Many thought Manny won the fight, Many thought Marquez won the fight. 91% KNEW Pacquiao won his fight with Bradley; there was nothing close about it! You can't compare the two fights; they were polar opposites. 91% can't all be wrong!!! Forget HBO' poll if you want. Sports Writers, not just Boxing writers, fighters of the sport, past or present, collectively have agreed Pacquiao won the fight and it wasn't even close. Bradley backed up the whole fight, Pacquiao walked thru everything Bradley had. Bradley broke his own ankle trying to get the hell out of the way of Pacquiao's attacks. Stop trying to compare the two fights. Pacquiao beating. Bradley so convincingly, for the fight being so one-sided, is why they know they can't sell a rematch. Had they rightfully given Pacquiao the Unanimous Decision he deserved, you'd hear no more about Bradley.

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            • valentino23
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              #56
              Watched the replay, and Pac 1 but didn't dominate like everyone tries to say. Pac's losing it, and if he fights Mayweather the way he fought Bradly I guarantee he gets dominated maybe by tko! Bradly says he felt no power and I didn't see it. He still fast, but wild on occasions, and has no defense! He will not be able punch the last 30sec and think he can win the fight, I also beleive he has to develop more punches. He lives off the straight left hand, and its going to take more than that to beat the best skilled boxer who ever lived! I used to think he had a punchers chance, but not anymore. The power is gone!

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              • Babyboy33749
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                #57
                Originally posted by BROOKLYN CESAR
                Lmfao now Manny knows how JMM feels!!!
                not from this fight he don't. Come on man, stop being such a hater lol. Their fight was way much closer than this one. It was more of a draw than anything, and I know that all the people who thought manny lost was because jmm did a good job against manny. It doesn't mean he won. All jmm was doing iS sitting back just fishing, if manny wouldnt have press the fight it woulda been boring as hell. Manny just won't to plz the crowd.... If you notice in that fight, as soon as the crowd start booing because nobody was swinging, manny starts attacking and jmm counter, the PAC counter. But, since the fight was so close, I guess if I was a Floyd nut sucker I would say jmm got screwed too

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                • al-Xander
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Own3d
                  He'd be a bit of a hypocrite if he complained about the Bradley decision after the gift he has got twice against JMM. He doesn't want the rematch because Bradley will be much tougher next time around. He's coming to the end of his career now and wants a money fight with JMM.
                  Nonsense. JMM vs Pac 1 & 2 were close fights. Keep on fooling yourself.

                  Fans nowadays have become utter jokes. They don't even know how to watch boxing anymore. They saw Bradley. He was fighting like he was the champion trying to defend his belt. He was effing running. Yes, the same guy who said he will destroy Pacman as a promotional campaign. What a joke.

                  That's why these fights are useless. These "challengers" of Pac so scared to take risk. They don't deserve the money they're getting.

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                  • Babyboy33749
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by valentino23
                    Watched the replay, and Pac 1 but didn't dominate like everyone tries to say. Pac's losing it, and if he fights Mayweather the way he fought Bradly I guarantee he gets dominated maybe by tko! Bradly says he felt no power and I didn't see it. He still fast, but wild on occasions, and has no defense! He will not be able punch the last 30sec and think he can win the fight, I also beleive he has to develop more punches. He lives off the straight left hand, and its going to take more than that to beat the best skilled boxer who ever lived! I used to think he had a punchers chance, but not anymore. The power is gone!
                    Did you watch Floyd's last fight with cotto? Floyd has to work on blocking them left hands if he gone last with PAC. Ortiz even stung him with a couple of lefts and he is not even left handed. Yea, PAC was shooting out the left str8 alot, but why not? He was tagging Tim almost everytime with. Isn't that something your brilliant mayweather do? If he finds a punch he can constantly hit you with, he keeps throwing it. It really seems like it hurt your heart to admit pacman won, why throw in negative stuff he did in the fight to bring him down. No fighter will land every punch he throws. I would still put money on the pacman if they fight, when in the hell does Floyd win by tko! He will have to fight a better fight if he fights PAC if he fights like he did against cotto, because all that backing in the corner and trying to block wont work against manny. Im sure he would bring the pressure from round 1 through 12... Taking all his lil one shot counters, but that want be enough. Floyd doesn't throw enough combinations to fuq with manny! Get that in y'all head

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                    • immortal tech
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by JoeMan
                      Nonsense. JMM vs Pac 1 & 2 were close fights. Keep on fooling yourself.

                      Fans nowadays have become utter jokes. They don't even know how to watch boxing anymore. They saw Bradley. He was fighting like he was the champion trying to defend his belt. He was effing running. Yes, the same guy who said he will destroy Pacman as a promotional campaign. What a joke.

                      That's why these fights are useless. These "challengers" of Pac so scared to take risk. They don't deserve the money they're getting.
                      Bradley vs Pac was a very close fight too take you fanboy glass's off its PAcquiao who was scare risks and was fighting the 1st 2 minutes of rounds

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