My theory on why Bob Arum robbed Pacquiao. What do you think ?

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  • SonOfCuba
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    My theory on why Bob Arum robbed Pacquiao. What do you think ?

    There has been a lot of conspiracy theories behind the results of Timothy Bradley's controversial win over Manny Pacquiao this past Saturday.

    Most say Arum had something to do with it while some say it would make no sense for the him, as Pacquiao's promoter, to do such thing.

    But if there was foul play, here would be my take on it.

    And please know, I'm a fan of both Mayweather and Pacquiao, I have followed both of them since their early days and regardless of what people think about each other, I respect and admire what they have both been able to with their boxing careers as well as life outside of it.

    1. By giving Bradley the victory, Bob Arum forces a rematch with Pacquiao in November and guarantees himself another large paycheck.

    2. The whole world knows that Pacquiao clearly won the fight, his reputations dosen't really take a hit and most people know who the best fighter clearly is. Also how can a promoter who just signef a fighter (bradley) so publicly bash him in the media as he has done Bradley. And Bradley not say a thing about ? I know how "if you knew it was coming before hand and was told to stay quite"

    3. Regardless of what people say, they would tune in for a rematch with Pac and Bradley just to see Pacquiao dominate or knock him out. Arum is aware of that.

    4. By having the rematch in November with Bradley, it cancels out the possibility of a fight with Mayweather who stated before that he would like to have a fight in the fall. Mayweather may request to fight Manny, but Bob Arum will simply say "Why ? We already have rematch set with Bradley, the guy who beat Pacquiao"

    5. Pacquiao then fights Bradley, weather or not he has a more dominating victory than their first fight, Pacquiao get the win and bam, hes back on top.

    6. Now after proving himself, Arum claims pacquiao wants to do it again and beat the guy who many think beat him, Juan Manuel Marquez, and why not. A fight between them is set and place in Mexico, as always the crowds will tune in and as always its a hit a big fight. They're fights always are.

    7. Then finally, after 2 more fights of cashing out on Manny, Bob Arum is finally set to have him face Mayweather and finally cash on maybe the biggest financial fight of all time.

    So it does make sense, in a way. Instead of just cashing out on 1 fight against Mayweather, he cashes out on 3 fights instead of 1.

    Oh by the way, then he can easily say "Here Marquez and Bradley, you both got beat by Pacquiao, why don't you face each other". Make it 4 fights.

    A very greedy move, but from Bob Arum... what can you expect ?
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    If Arum does indeed let Pac fight Marquez in Mexico then he is cashing him out.

    It's very likely that Pac will lose, and two losses on his professional record will ruin his career. It won't just hurt him, it will ruin him.

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      Originally posted by SonOfCuba
      There has been a lot of conspiracy theories behind the results of Timothy Bradley's controversial win over Manny Pacquiao this past Saturday.

      Most say Arum had something to do with it while some say it would make no sense for the him, as Pacquiao's promoter, to do such thing.

      But if there was foul play, here would be my take on it.

      And please know, I'm a fan of both Mayweather and Pacquiao, I have followed both of them since their early days and regardless of what people think about each other, I respect and admire what they have both been able to with their boxing careers as well as life outside of it.

      1. By giving Bradley the victory, Bob Arum forces a rematch with Pacquiao in November and guarantees himself another large paycheck.

      2. The whole world knows that Pacquiao clearly won the fight, his reputations dosen't really take a hit and most people know who the best fighter clearly is. Also how can a promoter who just signef a fighter (bradley) so publicly bash him in the media as he has done Bradley. And Bradley not say a thing about ? I know how "if you knew it was coming before hand and was told to stay quite"

      3. Regardless of what people say, they would tune in for a rematch with Pac and Bradley just to see Pacquiao dominate or knock him out. Arum is aware of that.

      4. By having the rematch in November with Bradley, it cancels out the possibility of a fight with Mayweather who stated before that he would like to have a fight in the fall. Mayweather may request to fight Manny, but Bob Arum will simply say "Why ? We already have rematch set with Bradley, the guy who beat Pacquiao"

      5. Pacquiao then fights Bradley, weather or not he has a more dominating victory than their first fight, Pacquiao get the win and bam, hes back on top.

      6. Now after proving himself, Arum claims pacquiao wants to do it again and beat the guy who many think beat him, Juan Manuel Marquez, and why not. A fight between them is set and place in Mexico, as always the crowds will tune in and as always its a hit a big fight. They're fights always are.

      7. Then finally, after 2 more fights of cashing out on Manny, Bob Arum is finally set to have him face Mayweather and finally cash on maybe the biggest financial fight of all time.

      So it does make sense, in a way. Instead of just cashing out on 1 fight against Mayweather, he cashes out on 3 fights instead of 1.

      Oh by the way, then he can easily say "Here Marquez and Bradley, you both got beat by Pacquiao, why don't you face each other". Make it 4 fights.

      A very greedy move, but from Bob Arum... what can you expect ?


      It's too soon to have him fight Tim again, not enough people will buy it. They will match him with JMM again and let the stink of the Bradley fight die down a bit. I personally think After a JMM fight, Pac retires having passed the torch to Bradley.....just like they all planned it.

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      • hhs661
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        No matter how he looked I believe Bradley will be the recipient of the torch being passed on.

        This fight however, had too much controversy. So Bradley redeems himself, fights Pac next year and in a crowd pleasing fashion, gives the fans a more pleasing outing no matter the decision.

        Pac was limited in options so this fight really opened up new windows for Manny. Whether it be Bradley II or JMM IV in November, they now have options.

        In the meantime, Rios can go up in weight and cement himself as a future opponent. Maybe a fight with Bradley if JMM IV happens in November. Or a bout with Mike Jones.

        Either way, we aren't seeing the fight we want to see anytime soon. Although late 2012, early 2013 would benefit Arum and Pac. Floyd would have limited training, and even if Pac takes less money, he'd be in better shape, form and all the advantages would go to him.

        The motivation would be there for Pac.

        But alas, I believe Arum isn't giving any $$$ to Floyd so Bradley's reign will start sooner than expected. That's part of my theory.. sorry for the Titangraph

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          Originally posted by Primera
          If Arum does indeed let Pac fight Marquez in Mexico then he is cashing him out.

          It's very likely that Pac will lose, and two losses on his professional record will ruin his career. It won't just hurt him, it will ruin him.
          Huh? What do you mean 2 losses on his professional record?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Fearless
            Huh? What do you mean 2 losses on his professional record?
            you know exactly what I mean.

            Two damaging losses this late in his career.

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              #7
              makes sense

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              • MeanestNiceGuy
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                You have to look at it like this, had Manny won last weekend, he would've eventually asked for more money in his next fight...that's ONLY after he found how much much Mayweather made in his last fight.

                Don't you think that the 8-division champion that the world loves, should make more than the guy that everybody hates (regardless of his skill level)?

                This is a way to keep Manny honest. Now that Manny "lost" to Tim, Arum is in no way "forced" to pay Manny more for his next fight. After Manny asks for more money, Arum will simply say, "Ay kid, you just lost your last fight, and there's not enough money out there to pay what you're asking for".

                With that said, dont you think Mayweather will say the same thing? Why do a 50/50 when he just made a guaranteed $32M in his last fight (against somebody that Pac beat), and Manny just "lost" his last fight. That gives the "megafight" another "substantial" reason to be held off.

                Now, Arum has Manny trapped in this "salary cap" situation, while having a way to make more off of him in 2-3 fights, rather than "possibly" cashing him out in 1 FMJ fight (as you mentioned).

                As you also mentioned, Arum has Manny somewhat trapped in 2 rematches, and can easily make a Marquez/Bradley fight. Good stuff in all of these posts...
                Last edited by MeanestNiceGuy; 06-13-2012, 11:35 PM.

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                • Yuiopy
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                  Although I believe it's plausible that Arum set everything up. And it does look like it was a win/win situation for both of his fighters. But do people really believe he has this much power? Don't you think the FBI or whatever would be on to him in such an obvious scam? It's not like LV is still run by the mobs (or is it)....

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                    I get that Arum's got control of this rematch but I highly doubt it's a three fight plan.

                    I mean get Bradley and then go for the big money then it's over.


                    Arum is no spring chicken, and Pac probably wants 2 more max at this point.

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