Can Manny Pacquiao do a Bernard Hopkins?

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  • bojangles1987
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    #31
    Not a chance. He's a fight or two from being far enough gone to lose to very good fighters, rather than just elite fighters.

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    • Bushbaby
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      #32
      Wait, we're comparing a no defense Manny to 1 of the greatest defensive techs of all time?? No way. Absolutely not. Pacman will never be the complete fighter that it takes to do what B-Hop has done.

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      • miron_lang
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        #33
        Originally posted by Bushbaby
        Wait, we're comparing a no defense Manny to 1 of the greatest defensive techs of all time?? No way. Absolutely not. Pacman will never be the complete fighter that it takes to do what B-Hop has done.
        Bernard Hopkins was once an offensive Juggernaut. He just adapted in his late 30's.


        its a long shot but the chance is not zero imo.

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        • JOM'S
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          #34
          Originally posted by bojangles1987
          Not a chance. He's a fight or two from being far enough gone to lose to very good fighters, rather than just elite fighters.
          I don't see that bro? Pac @147 is still as fast, as strong and as durable as anybody, I dont see him loosing just to anybody....

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          • JOM'S
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            #35
            Originally posted by Bushbaby
            Wait, we're comparing a no defense Manny to 1 of the greatest defensive techs of all time?? No way. Absolutely not. Pacman will never be the complete fighter that it takes to do what B-Hop has done.
            Originally posted by miron_lang
            Bernard Hopkins was once an offensive Juggernaut. He just adapted in his late 30's.


            its a long shot but the chance is not zero imo.
            lolz I think I am the only one who voted yes and have to agree that the chance is not zero hehe ...

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            • bojangles1987
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              #36
              Originally posted by JOM'S
              I don't see that bro? Pac @147 is still as fast, as strong and as durable as anybody, I dont see him loosing just to anybody....
              Guys who last as great fighters into an advanced age are guys who have something that continues to push them, an edge, a feeling of disrespect driving them to constantly prove people wrong. Pac hasn't had that edge for a while, and he isn't going to suddenly rediscover it.

              Pac may still be fast, he may still be great, but he is losing it obviously now. He has a year left IMO before he won't want to fight anymore. I think he only barely wants to fight now.

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              • Bushbaby
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                #37
                Originally posted by miron_lang
                Bernard Hopkins was once an offensive Juggernaut. He just adapted in his late 30's.


                its a long shot but the chance is not zero imo.
                Originally posted by JOM'S
                lolz I think I am the only one who voted yes and have to agree that the chance is not zero hehe ...
                Here's to hoping. But has Manny lived a lifestyle as clean as B-Hop's where his body hasn't taken the abuse necessary to do that??

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                • JOM'S
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  Guys who last as great fighters into an advanced age are guys who have something that continues to push them, an edge, a feeling of disrespect driving them to constantly prove people wrong. Pac hasn't had that edge for a while, and he isn't going to suddenly rediscover it.

                  Pac may still be fast, he may still be great, but he is losing it obviously now. He has a year left IMO before he won't want to fight anymore. I think he only barely wants to fight now.
                  i see your point that Pac has been missing that drive and I have doubts of him rediscovering it, last time he lost to morales he cried, now he just smiled it off...

                  I am only banking that in each pacquiao loss he came back better and enjoyed a streak and achieved a higher plateu .... after torreocampo he bacame world champion, after singsurat he bacame p4p by beating marco, after morales we all know the story....

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                  • JOM'S
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bushbaby
                    Here's to hoping. But has Manny lived a lifestyle as clean as B-Hop's where his body hasn't taken the abuse necessary to do that??
                    this is a good call, Pac is having that rockstar lifestyle will pacquiao'd him at the end...

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                    • P4P_No1
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                      #40
                      Don't think he has the boxing IQ to change up his style. It's just not in his nature.

                      He would have to change his style totally and I don't think he can and to be honest, I don't think he wants to.

                      He doesn't have that hunger to continue in the sport, to prove himself over and over again like B-Hop does. They both have very different mentalities.

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