Will there be a U.S. heavyweight world champion in the next 10 years?

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  • The Hammer
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    #51
    Originally posted by 4Corners
    Aside from the Klitschko's, all the HW's skill level is much less than past era's. I don't see how even a bias Brit could dispute that.
    Have you ever seen Glazkov or Dinu, for example? Haye or Pulev? I bet you haven't. There's nothing wrong with their skills.

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    • {Pito}
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      #52
      Originally posted by AyoMaDu
      I believe that most American heavyweights fight like big men. Sure they are big granted, they're f'ing heavyweights. The problem though is that fighting like a big guy they automatically throw less punches and throw to kill instead of just touching up their opponents. Their movement is also limited because of their weight. But what I'd they were to fight like a small guy? Touch up their opponents. Throw more punches. Move lighter on their feet. More angles. I think that if American heavyweights needed something to stand a chance they would need to fight like smaller men. I hope y'all understand what I'm trying to say. Who do y'all believe would benefit the most from fighting like a smaller guy?
      To elaborate further I believe Bryant Jennings is a perfect example of someone that's big but athletic. He throws combinations has angles. Does a whole lot of movement for a big man. Did y'all see his fight on the under card of zab Judah vs Vernon Paris? That was a great fight and demonstrated what a bog guy who fights athletically can do. Who else agrees.

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      • Danny Gunz
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        #53
        I like Bryant Jennings Id say in a year or two he will be at the top of the division if the K's retire.

        Who knows maybe Wilder will develop nicely.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Freedom.
          Yes, there are more pro boxers and more boxing gyms in the USA than anywhere else.

          There are 417 active American pro HWs, and only 13 Ukrainian HWs. Yet the HW champs are Ukrainian.

          USA: http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...IT=Go&pageID=1

          Ukraine: http://boxrec.com/ratings.php?countr...us=A&SUBMIT=Go
          That means nothing because the Ukraine fighters that have the belts are the very best. If Wlad and Vitali were not fighting there would be a US champ. By you saying what you are saying you're kind of discrediting because you are trying to say quantity should equal championships. No, population has no bearing on championships. It takes TALENT to be a world champion. It's old hat with you Tunney.

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          • Paclan
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            #55
            all I know is there's gonna be a higher probability of having one as soon as the klitschkos retire.

            eddie chambers maybe- he's good enough to beat anybody else that isn't the klitschkos.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Paclan
              all I know is there's gonna be a higher probability of having one as soon as the klitschkos retire.
              A lot higher. If the Klitchkos weren't fight then I think it's safe to assume that Adamek would of probably had a title. Chambers probably will beat Adamek, despite Chambers being complete garbage.

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                #57
                Originally posted by Freedom.
                No, it's mostly people saying that the divisions like HW which are not dominated by Americans are no good. Look who started this thread.

                Non-American boxers like the Klitschkos and Calzaghe have received an enormous amount of unwarranted ridicule and bashing in these forums. Who is being envious?
                Why is constructive honest criticism always called bashing?

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                • taansend
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Freedom.
                  Because some Americans like the TS feel the US has to be the best at everything.
                  That could explain why all the national champions are "World" champions.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Freedom.
                    So you feel only American boxers can have talent?

                    I think Vyacheslav Glazkov has better boxing skills than any American HW right now.
                    No, I'm saying American heavyweight fighters don't have talent. The Klitchkos are way above everyone else but when they retire it will be a lot of lessers and that's where some less talented fighters like Mitchell, Scott and Chambers could snatch a title.

                    The whole America has 400 something heavyweights doesn't mean a thing because they aren't all that good. As for the Ukraine fighters that are on your list most they don't have many but we all know that only the best of the Ukraine end up going pro anyways.

                    It's like people from PR or Cuba parading around saying look at we have done with such a small population. Population doesn't mean talent. America obviously has a bigger population and more fighters but that doesn't mean they are actually good.

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                    • JAB5239
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Big Dunn
                      Why is constructive honest criticism always called bashing?
                      Lets just say many Klit fans (not all) have an agenda and will not accept a difference of opinion no matter how valid. Heavyweights today, including Americans, lack stamina, head movement, body no combination punching. Some people will not accept this because it weakens the outlook on their heroes.

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