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  • Albeerto
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    #11
    Originally posted by hitking
    pac was at his best against jmm. His best just isn't nearly as good as his worshipers would like to believe.
    owned.....lmao

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    • hitking
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      #12
      Originally posted by throbk1974
      Canelo and Cotto both contributed to at least half of the number. they were fighting on Cinco De Mayo. Mayweather couldn't get half that number, if he fought on June-teenth.
      Mayweather haters, like yourself, say ****** and outlandish things often. But crediting his opponents and undercard fighters for his PPV success if probably the dumbest. With the exception of JMM, every fighter Mayweather has fought have done a personal high in PPV buys with him. If they're such draws, the would be doing huge numbers without Mayweather. And the Canelo argument is even dumber. To my knowledge, Canelo has never headlined a PPV. But he will this Sept. And the thing will be lucky to do 100K PPV hits. No please, kill the nonsense about Mayweather's opponents and undercard fighters being a huge part of his drawing success. Because the facts don't at all support that statement.

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      • waxfondler
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        #13
        Originally posted by hitking
        Pac was at his best against JMM. His best just isn't nearly as good as his worshipers would like to believe.
        IMO, pac wasnt at his best against jmm... he wasnt at his best against shane as well... i honestly think pac is getting faded, or at least lost motivation. to top things off, shane ended up running all night & jmm was TOO conservative... i think if jmm ****** with pac the way he ****** against katsidis, we wouldve seen a different fight.... jmm KNEW this. so he carefully potshotted and tried to steal the title.... unluckily for him, the judges didnt see it his way.... i personally thought a draw wouldve been appropriate. or at least a split decision either way.

        btw, pac seems to be suffering from the symptoms of a shot fighter.... leg cramps, inability to pull the trigger, loss of focus, etc....

        lets see if he proves us wrong

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        • waxfondler
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          #14
          Originally posted by hitking
          If a large portion of the 1.5M Mayweather-Cotto did is attributed to Cotto. Doesn't that make the 1.25M Pacquaio-Cotto did that much less impressive and hurt Pac's position of wanting a 50/50 split wit Money?
          theres no question that floyd is the bigger draw compared to pac... but i honestly think shane, canelo, & cotto DEFINITELY helped pad the numbers.... this goes to show how good GBP treats their fans.... unlike bob who neglects the undercards and doesnt even try to give us a compelling card.

          at the end of the day, we know that team floyd KNOWS how to get peoples attention: trash talk, drama, 50 cent, misc. celebrities, bieber ring walk, etc....

          compared to pac's bible studies, lack of vocabulary, etc.... of course floyd will OUTSELL pac. LOL

          i think everyone is exhausted of the roach/pac story.

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          • hitking
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            #15
            Originally posted by waxfondler
            IMO, pac wasnt at his best against jmm... he wasnt at his best against shane as well... i honestly think pac is getting faded, or at least lost motivation. to top things off, shane ended up running all night & jmm was TOO conservative... i think if jmm ****** with pac the way he ****** against katsidis, we wouldve seen a different fight.... jmm KNEW this. so he carefully potshotted and tried to steal the title.... unluckily for him, the judges didnt see it his way.... i personally thought a draw wouldve been appropriate. or at least a split decision either way.

            btw, pac seems to be suffering from the symptoms of a shot fighter.... leg cramps, inability to pull the trigger, loss of focus, etc....

            lets see if he proves us wrong
            IMO, Pac doesn't look any different than the guy that fought JMM to a draw in their first fight then turned around and lost to Morales in his next fight. And as for a physical prime, those fights followed what IMO was Pac's finest performance in the first Barerra. When Pac gets a little lateral movement, which Mosley gave him, he gets flustered and tends to swing wildly and becomes a very inaccurate puncher. When he's being countered effectively, his workrate drops and he's basically reduced to standing, staring, and the occasional shoe shine flurry. Go back and watch the first JMM and Morales fights. You'll see a guy similar to what you've seen in Pac's last couple outings.

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            • richardt
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              #16
              There has been arguing about PPV numbers with Floyd and Pac but does anyone else notice that Pac has not had a fight show up in Movie Theaters like Mayweather vs Mosley and Cotto did? I went to a Movie Theater to see those fights and Pac's fight is not at a local Movie Theater.

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              • twosweethooks
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                #17
                There are NO EXCUSES

                Excuses only satisfy those that make them

                The fights needs to be sound and fair,

                The Judges need to be sound and fair

                I hope neither fighter cuts from head butts

                IF Pac loses he is washed up, lost his edge, can't pull the trigger etc........and needs to retire

                IF BRADLEY WINS let him fight Mayweather

                My call is Pac to KO Bradley

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                • flint
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                  #18
                  sick of arum and pacquiao. marquez beat this fake ducking coward and i hope bradley knocks him completely out.

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                  • SpeedKillz
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by twosweethooks
                    There are NO EXCUSES

                    Excuses only satisfy those that make them

                    The fights needs to be sound and fair,

                    The Judges need to be sound and fair

                    I hope neither fighter cuts from head butts

                    IF Pac loses he is washed up, lost his edge, can't pull the trigger etc........and needs to retire

                    IF BRADLEY WINS let him fight Mayweather

                    My call is Pac to KO Bradley
                    if you're expecting fair judging for this fight, you got problems buddy

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                    • joseph5620
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP
                      It remains to be seen just how stiff of a challenge undefeated Timothy Bradley will be to Manny Pacquiao when they meet inside of the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada on Saturday night.

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                      "Effort" had nothing to do with it. It was the style and the counter punching skills of Marquez.

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