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Roy Jones vs this era's best Super Middleweights, how would he have performed?
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Originally posted by TX_BOXNG View Posti watched that fight against kelly dude, he was really unknown n he wasnt that good at all, but yea RJJR is the most amazing fighter ive ever seen
I think the only fiighter who really gave Jones any trouble before Tarver got in that lucky punch, was Montell Griffin in their first fight. He fought the fight of his life, but was actually nearly KO'd when Jones hit him with his knee touching the canvas. I think that Jones' punch sort of woke him up and he realised that he had a chance to get a DQ so played it well. A Hopkins sort of stunt. So he could have credibly been said to be unbeaten until the Tarver fight.
If you ever saw Benny Leonard fight you'd see a similiar sort of fighter, on a smaller scale. Hardly ever went straight back, but more to the side, very elusive, with a KO punch. He was lightweight champ for about 7-8 years, retired unbeaten as champ. Only 5'5". Died in the ring when refereeing. About 50 years old.
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You guys are.......
I think you guys are over-rating Jones here. He was a good fighter, the fastest fighter I ever seen BUT he fought a lot of cab drivers, construction workers, and Policemen. When he beat Toney, Toney wasn't focused on boxing and started gaining too much weight between fights. He was weight-drained in that fight and wasn't himself that night. When Roy beat Hopkins, Hopkins wasn't ready for that fight just yet.
I've been reading all these posts picking Roy in every fight hands down and it just doesn't work that way. One thing Roy never had to display in his prime was the ability to handle adversity and toughness. He didn't get touched. There are more than a few guys from the supersix that his speed would not defeat alone. When you fight at this level, you get touched and we all know what happens when Roy gets touched. I am not saying he would lose all of those fights, but he would lose a couple of them. I think Froch, Ward, Dirrel, and Kessler would give him all he can handle. We all know that Bute is a hype job and Roy would K.O. him. Dawson as well. And for the record, if he had not dodged my boy Michael "second to" Nunn back in the day, he would have gotten beat up in that fight too!
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Originally posted by GOD-FR33 View PostI think you guys are over-rating Jones here. He was a good fighter, the fastest fighter I ever seen BUT he fought a lot of cab drivers, construction workers, and Policemen. When he beat Toney, Toney wasn't focused on boxing and started gaining too much weight between fights. He was weight-drained in that fight and wasn't himself that night. When Roy beat Hopkins, Hopkins wasn't ready for that fight just yet.
I've been reading all these posts picking Roy in every fight hands down and it just doesn't work that way. One thing Roy never had to display in his prime was the ability to handle adversity and toughness. He didn't get touched. There are more than a few guys from the supersix that his speed would not defeat alone. When you fight at this level, you get touched and we all know what happens when Roy gets touched. I am not saying he would lose all of those fights, but he would lose a couple of them. I think Froch, Ward, Dirrel, and Kessler would give him all he can handle. We all know that Bute is a hype job and Roy would K.O. him. Dawson as well. And for the record, if he had not dodged my boy Michael "second to" Nunn back in the day, he would have gotten beat up in that fight too!
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Originally posted by LA_2_Vegas View PostOnly Calzaghe and Ward have displayed the type of fortitude and mental makeup it takes to beat Roy in his prime imo. yes, other are iron willed, but these two take it to another level to me.
I don't think Ward has the quickness or footspeed to do it...he also is not active enough to give the impression that he is making the fight against the showman Roy. Calzaghe, on the other hand, does have the quickness and foot speed and rhythm that is takes to appear to be dictating the action in order to win rounds.....in their primes it would have been really funny to see them try to out showboat each other and not give the appearance of giving in to each other. I know RJ fans will always point to that first rd against Joe as the evidence of what would have been if he was prime...but going down early like that was also a trait of Calzaghe's...so that fight, those early moments, really were just a tease on what could have been.
I'd like to think Dirrell could be one of the best too, but he still has some things to work out yet
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