If Roach Isn't A Great Trainer, Then Who Is?

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I can't post in that thread because the TS has me on ignore, but I'm wondering what active trainers can be considered great? If we're speaking on terms of trainers that have created a world class fighter and not just trained an ALREADY world class fighter, one who immediate comes to mind is Nacho Beristain. He's created a who stable of World Champions through out his career. But who else?

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Freddie Roach is a great adviser/matchmaker/negotiator. People have to understand, that's what makes a great trainer in today's boxing era. Intelligence, no one can deny Freddie is smart with his requests of opponents from the promoters and fighters.

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robert garcia, floyd senior, ron shields idk if they are A but they good jus like roach

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Ignacio Beristáin

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The guy Cotto works with, Nacho, Manny steward

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I asked that guy and he said Brother Naz, Uncle Rog, Nacho and Manny Steward LOL.

All are great, but so is Roach then.

They all have flaws.

Uncle only has Floyd and does train a bunch of people.

Manny has 2 great HW's in Wlad and Lewis but let Lewis get fat and KTFO. Pirnce Naseem he did a bad job. Taylor he let get KTFO and was boring as hell. He let some Lee I think get beat up by Vera. Wlad is a cherry picker and his bro goes after the punchers.

Nacho has made some bad choices for JMM, and good. JMM fights Pac well, keep chasing him and getting lefty tune ups for Pac, but he also has avoided guys like Khan by saying bad style match up. JMM could beat Khan but the risk I guess.... a few have left him too. Arce, R Marquez etc, where were their defense?

Bro Naz is good at checking wraps, rules, but what Mosely has been since Margo who was tailor made for him is a shambles. He tried to save face by saying we made the blue print for Pac, but Pac has been beaten before anyway, but more importantly, WTF did Mosely do but run? That is not boxing. Hopkin's has done al right, beat 4 rounder Pascal, Roy Jones... lost to Dawson who is a guy who is skilled. Dunno why he uses sticks and not pads that often. Mosely has turned weak and pitty pats just like hopkins. Then both hold...

Every trainer has holes.

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The guy Cotto works with, Nacho, Manny steward

Manny steward? WTF you high duke?

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I asked that guy and he said Brother Naz, Uncle Rog, Nacho and Manny Steward LOL.

All are great, but so is Roach then.

They all have flaws.

Uncle only has Floyd and does train a bunch of people.

Manny has 2 great HW's in Wlad and Lewis but let Lewis get fat and KTFO. Pirnce Naseem he did a bad job. Taylor he let get KTFO and was boring as hell. He let some Lee I think get beat up by Vera. Wlad is a cherry picker and his bro goes after the punchers.

Nacho has made some bad choices for JMM, and good. JMM fights Pac well, keep chasing him and getting lefty tune ups for Pac, but he also has avoided guys like Khan by saying bad style match up. JMM could beat Khan but the risk I guess.... a few have left him too. Arce, R Marquez etc, where were their defense?

Bro Naz is good at checking wraps, rules, but what Mosely has been since Margo who was tailor made for him is a shambles. He tried to save face by saying we made the blue print for Pac, but Pac has been beaten before anyway, but more importantly, WTF did Mosely do but run? That is not boxing. Hopkin's has done al right, beat 4 rounder Pascal, Roy Jones... lost to Dawson who is a guy who is skilled. Dunno why he uses sticks and not pads that often. Mosely has turned weak and pitty pats just like hopkins. Then both hold...

Every trainer has holes.

Roger? How is Roger a great trainer? The only fighter he has that's accomplished something is Floyd. All his other fighters get beat or haven't done **** yet. I knew that fool was just biased against Roach.

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I also don't believe Roach is a "great" trainer, but there really isn't a school of great trainers active right now.

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The guy Cotto works with, Nacho, Manny steward

You never heard of him before in your life... You watched 24/7 and frotin like you know.