Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Returns Legal Fire at Former Accountants

[Biolink]

Bad enough some Floyd fans think he is invincible, but even the haters are on here further propagating the opinion of their sworn enemies.

So he just has Illuminati like influence and can pay off everyone, all in a grand scheme to make Manny look bad publicly.

[GRUSTLER]

Your opinion doesn't really matter since you have no knowledge of what's going on, any more than the rest of us. The difference between us is that I stick to known facts and logical conclusions, whereas-and I don't exactly mean you but-people like you throw accusations of "conspiracy" around like confetti, which only exposes your own foolish distortions of fact and insinuations of nonsense. There's no point in taking your points and refuting them, which is just too easy to do, but you are making completely unsubstantiated statements about just everything.

I should venture a guess on the VisionQuest thing, that he is a very busy man and it was comparatively unimportant. And where did you get the notion that Mayweather makes TEN TIMES as much as Pacquiao?? I couldn't care less, but...aren't you overdoing it a bit?? More likely, if their total incomes were calculated, it might be found that MannyP has at least a comparable income, likely more. But, as I don't get any of it, why should I worry myself about it.

By the way, I'm glad that you added "sometimes"-but it would have been more accurate if you'd said "never".

So Floyd Mayweather Jr made Manny Pacquiao hire VisionQuest then told Bob Arum to fire them and owe them money, all to make Manny look bad? Manny Pacquiao is the same idiot that was signed to Top Rank on paper and took a suitcase full of Money from Oscar De La Hoya. The same meat head that had some lady taking money out of his LA account because he didn't even know he had an account in LA. The same guy who neglected to turn in all of his proper tax paper work to the Philippine government. This is the same fool that has his boxing promoter pick his adviser and be involved and run his other businesses outside of his boxing career and here you are acting like Pacquiao is some victim? He's a victim of his own ******ity.

[edgarg]

So what does this have to do with Manny Pacquiao owing VisionQuest money?

I wasn't discussing the merits of debt/nonpayment etc. There is, so-far, no evidence that any debt is involved, other than the routine insertion of this accusation as part of an action. It could well be dismissed by a judge. Alternately, MannyP might well have borrowed money and stopped repayment becuase he is looking for damages for perceived mishandling of his affairs. You know, an adaptation of Alexander Pope's "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" sort of thing.

A good illustration of this is the accusation that Mayweather periodically levies against Top Rank, that they owe him $4 million. What is never revealed is that Arum and others have confirmed that they DID owe him money, and had repaid it in portions, but, when they had repaid about 98% they discovered that he owed them much more than the balance, so they stopped payments.

Who knows??

[GRUSTLER]

I wasn't discussing the merits of debt/nonpayment etc. There is, so-far, no evidence that any debt is involved, other than the routine insertion of this accusation as part of an action. It could well be dismissed by a judge. Alternately, MannyP might well have borrowed money and stopped repayment becuase he is looking for damages for perceived mishandling of his affairs. You know, an adaptation of Alexander Pope's "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" sort of thing.

A good illustration of this is the accusation that Mayweather periodically levies against Top Rank, that they owe him $4 million. What is never revealed is that Arum and others have confirmed that they DID owe him money, and had repaid it in portions, but, when they had repaid about 98% they discovered that he owed them much more than the balance, so they stopped payments.

Who knows??

How could Mayweather owe Bob Arum anything when Floyd bought out of his contract with Top Rank for $700,000? If Floyd owed Arum money would he had let Floyd buy out of his contract? It was an article on here that stated Manny Pacquiao hired VisionQuest to find where his money was going but once Bob Arum found out, he got Pacquiao to fire them. It was covered on here. Why would Manny hire then fire them?

[edgarg]

the only reason his sentence was postponed was so the state could make big bucks off the hundreds of millions his fights bring to the economy. it might be closer to a billion dollars due to the out of state money and spin off business. and every day people get sentence reductions. its called a plea bargain. so these people must be out to get pac too? floyd now hires pacs bean counters? its your exaggerations and distortions that ruin your reputation. no one is helping you with that.

It doesn't clarify your "points" (so-called) to accuse me of your own faults. That's primary school stuff. My integrity is very well thank you, and always has been. There isn't a single comment of mine that you can lucidly and truly refute. Except by your own "opinion"....

Does it matter?? No need to scrach your brain(s) in search of a competent reply. You won't find it. Besides, you might get splinters (now you have me descending to your level-I must stop this).

[edgarg]

now i am convinced that you are posting from the inside. you must be bi-polar and under a doctors care. you did state that vision quest was floyds attack dog in regards to pac. you are a condescending hack.

I said no such thing. I said that they acted for Mayweather as agents in making a deal with Miss Mandela. I wish you'd stop bestowing your own flaws on me. it becomes tiresome when it stops being amusing. No point in getting down to personal insults. Be a man-or whatever applies best.

[edgarg]

How could Mayweather owe Bob Arum anything when Floyd bought out of his contract with Top Rank for $700,000? If Floyd owed Arum money would he had let Floyd buy out of his contract? It was an article on here that stated Manny Pacquiao hired VisionQuest to find where his money was going but once Bob Arum found out, he got Pacquiao to fire them. It was covered on here. Why would Manny hire then fire them?

No, you conspiracy gumbos speculated that Arum got Pacquiao to fire them. And I clearly said that thay stopped re-payment when they found that they had overpaid.

Again,about VisionQuest, as far as I've read, Pacquiao fired them because he (or maybe his advisors??) found that they were incompetent, and is now sueing them because of it. I'm tired of this accusation-refutation thing. I'm being called to dinner.

[edgarg]

Yo Crazy, you contradicted yourself in one paragraph. Do you even proof read what you write or are you just so into yourself trying to sound smart because frankly you are making no sense whatsoever and when I read your posts they read like a bunch of words just put together to TRY and sound intelligent.

It's wonderful that you are able to read, and recognise intelligence, but it would be an advantage if you could also comprehend what you read. If...I said IF, you would then follow along the intended path, receive the clear meanings, and not go off the rails with your accusatory, conspiracy nonsense. Why and how you see "contradictions" in my clearly delineated commments is beyond me, as it's easily understood by any even part-educated, literate being,

I suppose that that's not you. I always used to think you were better than that.

[edgarg]

Yo Crazy, you contradicted yourself in one paragraph. Do you even proof read what you write or are you just so into yourself trying to sound smart because frankly you are making no sense whatsoever and when I read your posts they read like a bunch of words just put together to TRY and sound intelligent.

Grust dear lad i have no need to TRY to sound intelligent, my intelligence is guaranteed by the certificates, diplomas and other testimonials on the wlls in my office.

Do you know what I think....bear with me now....I think that you just never acquired the asset of concentration, you know what I mean....don't you...weeell look it up in a dictionary, my time is limited. Remember that concentration and constipation are not the same word.
Mind concentration is what you NEED, and mind constipation is what you HAVE. To get rid of it you need a STIFF dose of understanding........which should bring a rush of clarification..

Are you paying attention?? Well, you'll learn in time so that they won't be just words to you, and you'll eventually be able to see meaning in them.......maybe...

Call on me anytime...when I'm not busy.

[FloydTBE]

yeah right, sort it out