Comments Thread For: Pacquiao Returns Legal Fire at Former Accountants

[edgarg]

I's just joking bro

It's OK no harm done.

[edgarg]

Yeah, just like Mayweather has the USADA on the pay roll too according to Manny Pacquiao supporters. Always acting like Mayweather has some kind of political influence with companies targeting Manny Pacquiao? What a load of crap because if Floyd was that influential and powerful then he would not be going to jail for smacking up his baby moms and scaring his kids. I swear you guys act like Manny can't do anything wrong or F*** up.

Please don't mis-interpret what I plainly said. And don't add extraneous random points. Bad habit Grustler. I don't know about Mayweather having influence, but, since you brought it up, getting his prison sentence postponed for 5 solid months so that he could partake of a sporting event and make himself millions of dollars, might be interpreted that way. And the fact that he only got 6 months of which are 3 suspended instead of 2-3 years, could THAT smell of influence,...i don't know, it depends on who is giving the opinion.

I was making a point about VisionQuest that they have been Mayweather's trusted agents, which Maybugs generally seem to be unaware of.

As for Pacquiao, I don't give a tinker's damn what he is or how he goes about it. I was merely correcting mis-statements of fact, far too common here. Exaggerations and distortions ruin a potentially interesting exchange worse than anything. For a person who regards fact as important-that is.

[mrjoeblive]

Why should people be allowed to say scandalous things about you, which being repeated in print, become libellous. Waht Brewer said is certainly actionable I'd think, but Pacquiao wouldn't be bothered with such small fry.

About VisionQuest, I have posted a couple of times that they were Mayweather's agents in that farce of trying to squeeze $100 millions out of Mandela's daughter to fightMannyP in Sount Africa. ayweather originally said that he wanted $10 mill just to meet and talk with them. I think he met them but they didn't pay him any $10 mills.

you are a conspiracy theory nut job. so floyd also told them to loan pac money and told pac not to pay them back???? and why did it take one year for pac to file a counter suit? imo these accountants are going to take pac to the cleaners. they better hurry up before the gov gets to him.

[mrjoeblive]

Something I forgot to add. VisionQuest gives only telephone numbers for their overseas "branches", which indicates that they are merely convenience numbers and any calls are re-routed to the main VisionQuest offices in the States. I don't know anything about them other than that I wouldn't deal with them.

I normally don't bother answering crappers but for you I'll make an exception??

so you're smart enough to find a floyd vision quest connection, but top rank and its minions cannot? and if floyd is so dumb and ******, why does he make almost 10 times what pac makes? pac is going to make less than cotto for his fight with bradly. if floyd is so dumb and ****** what does that make pac? you are a complete wack job sometimes.

[edgarg]

A consulting company that specializes in accounting audits which has an LA branch and a Philippines branch. Wouldn't that just seem like that right group for Manny to take his inquiry to? It would eliminate any language barriers and just make the entire process quite a bit less tedious for everyone involved. Instead, you're going to hang your hat on a Mayweather-centric conspiracy theory where Floyd secretly has influence over these neutral organizations.

Lets say Manny gets audited by the IRS. Floyd has paid far more taxes to the IRS and had plenty of dealings with them over the years. Would you be accusing the IRS of being a puppet organization under the influence of Floyd too? Because that is how ****** you guys look with your conspiracy theories about USADA and VisionQwest.

On many subjects you can be solid poster, but when it comes to any Pac/May/Klit stuff you are just an absolute kook. I have no idea why you're so emotionally invested in it.

You're making all kinds of unwarranted assumptions. But then, I find irrational, widely erratic posters interesting, and you fit the bill.

1) I have no indication that VisionQuest specializes in auditing accounts other than the fact that ALL well known accounting firms basically audit accounts that companies hand them yearly, which have been collated by their own accountants. And it isn't relevant. Also. you missed my point about "unaddressed phone numbers"-they are just numbers which could easily be re-routed straight to Los Angeles.

2) I see no special advantage of language communication, since those who would be explaining and dealing with Pacquiao's accounts most certainly speak English. He's reported to have large and varied business interests.

3) I didn't even hint at a Mayweather-centric "conspiracy". (conspiracies are for crazies). Because you were boosting up VisionQuest, I correctly pointed out that they were not really neutral, since they had had a very close and trusted association with Mayweather quite different from a company just auditing books. Mayweather, as you may not know, is an imprisoned criminal.

4) .It's to be expected that Mayweather would be billed by, and pay more to the IRS since he is an American citizen and presumably pays all his taxes there, (when they catch up to him) the bulk of his income being made there. How might that cause me to believe that the IRS is a puppet?? You puzzle me. Pacquiao, on the other hand, has international interests. Quite different.

5) How does USADA come into it? I haven't mentioned USADA for months if ever at all. I don't grizzle myself over such nonsense. As for VisionQuest, I'm merely pointing out a fact.

I could be more specific but my interest is waning. Last and very much least, emotional investment in anything except family is only foolish. And if you mean it the other way around, to allow emotions to intrude in investments, is usually disastrous. I never do that, i have an expert looking after it, which he does, very well.

The reason I post more about those you mentioned is because there are more crazies on both sides, concerning these fighters. So I have more garbage to turn over and shovel away.
It amuses me. Thank you for the exchange.

[mrjoeblive]

Please don't mis-interpret what I plainly said. And don't add extraneous random points. Bad habit Grustler. I don't know about Mayweather having influence, but, since you brought it up, getting his prison sentence postponed for 5 solid months so that he could partake of a sporting event and make himself millions of dollars, might be interpreted that way. And the fact that he only got 6 months of which are 3 suspended instead of 2-3 years, could THAT smell of influence,...i don't know, it depends on who is giving the opinion.

I was making a point about VisionQuest that they have been Mayweather's trusted agents, which Maybugs generally seem to be unaware of.

As for Pacquiao, I don't give a tinker's damn what he is or how he goes about it. I was merely correcting mis-statements of fact, far too common here. Exaggerations and distortions ruin a potentially interesting exchange worse than anything. For a person who regards fact as important-that is.

the only reason his sentence was postponed was so the state could make big bucks off the hundreds of millions his fights bring to the economy. it might be closer to a billion dollars due to the out of state money and spin off business. and every day people get sentence reductions. its called a plea bargain. so these people must be out to get pac too? floyd now hires pacs bean counters? its your exaggerations and distortions that ruin your reputation. no one is helping you with that.

[mrjoeblive]

You're making all kinds of unwarranted assumptions. But then, I find irrational, widely erratic posters interesting, and you fit the bill.

1) I have no indication that VisionQuest specializes in auditing accounts other than the fact that ALL well known accounting firms basically audit accounts that companies hand them yearly, which have been collated by their own accountants. And it isn't relevant. Also. you missed my point about "unaddressed phone numbers"-they are just numbers which could easily be re-routed straight to Los Angeles.

2) I see no special advantage of language communication, since those who would be explaining and dealing with Pacquiao's accounts most certainly speak English. He's reported to have large and varied business interests.

3) I didn't even hint at a Mayweather-centric "conspiracy". (conspiracies are for crazies). Because you were boosting up VisionQuest, I correctly pointed out that they were not really neutral, since they had had a very close and trusted association with Mayweather quite different from a company just auditing books. Mayweather, as you may not know, is an imprisoned criminal.

4) .It's to be expected that Mayweather would be billed by, and pay more to the IRS since he is an American citizen and presumably pays all his taxes there, (when they catch up to him) the bulk of his income being made there. How might that cause me to believe that the IRS is a puppet?? You puzzle me. Pacquiao, on the other hand, has international interests. Quite different.

5) How does USADA come into it? I haven't mentioned USADA for months if ever at all. I don't grizzle myself over such nonsense. As for VisionQuest, I'm merely pointing out a fact.

I could be more specific but my interest is waning. Last and very much least, emotional investment in anything except family is only foolish. And if you mean it the other way around, to allow emotions to intrude in investments, is usually disastrous. I never do that, i have an expert looking after it, which he does, very well.

The reason I post more about those you mentioned is because there are more crazies on both sides, concerning these fighters. So I have more garbage to turn over and shovel away.
It amuses me. Thank you for the exchange.

now i am convinced that you are posting from the inside. you must be bi-polar and under a doctors care. you did state that vision quest was floyds attack dog in regards to pac. you are a condescending hack.

[GRUSTLER]

Please don't mis-interpret what I plainly said. And don't add extraneous random points. Bad habit Grustler. I don't know about Mayweather having influence, but, since you brought it up, getting his prison sentence postponed for 5 solid months so that he could partake of a sporting event and make himself millions of dollars, might be interpreted that way. And the fact that he only got 6 months of which are 3 suspended instead of 2-3 years, could THAT smell of influence,...i don't know, it depends on who is giving the opinion.

I was making a point about VisionQuest that they have been Mayweather's trusted agents, which Maybugs generally seem to be unaware of.

As for Pacquiao, I don't give a tinker's damn what he is or how he goes about it. I was merely correcting mis-statements of fact, far too common here. Exaggerations and distortions ruin a potentially interesting exchange worse than anything. For a person who regards fact as important-that is.

So what does this have to do with Manny Pacquiao owing VisionQuest money?

[edgarg]

you are a conspiracy theory nut job. so floyd also told them to loan pac money and told pac not to pay them back???? and why did it take one year for pac to file a counter suit? imo these accountants are going to take pac to the cleaners. they better hurry up before the gov gets to him.

Your opinion doesn't really matter since you have no knowledge of what's going on, any more than the rest of us. The difference between us is that I stick to known facts and logical conclusions, whereas-and I don't exactly mean you but-people like you throw accusations of "conspiracy" around like confetti, which only exposes your own foolish distortions of fact and insinuations of nonsense. There's no point in taking your points and refuting them, which is just too easy to do, but you are making completely unsubstantiated statements about just everything.

I should venture a guess on the VisionQuest thing, that he is a very busy man and it was comparatively unimportant. And where did you get the notion that Mayweather makes TEN TIMES as much as Pacquiao?? I couldn't care less, but...aren't you overdoing it a bit?? More likely, if their total incomes were calculated, it might be found that MannyP has at least a comparable income, likely more. But, as I don't get any of it, why should I worry myself about it.

By the way, I'm glad that you added "sometimes"-but it would have been more accurate if you'd said "never".

[GRUSTLER]

3) I didn't even hint at a Mayweather-centric "conspiracy". (conspiracies are for crazies). Because you were boosting up VisionQuest, I correctly pointed out that they were not really neutral, since they had had a very close and trusted association with Mayweather quite different from a company just auditing books. Mayweather, as you may not know, is an imprisoned criminal.

Yo Crazy, you contradicted yourself in one paragraph. Do you even proof read what you write or are you just so into yourself trying to sound smart because frankly you are making no sense whatsoever and when I read your posts they read like a bunch of words just put together to TRY and sound intelligent.