Is Manny Pacquiao the most overrated fighter of the past 25 years?

[Reloaded]

I agree, but i have seen nothing of DLH to suggest he wouldnt lose to Pac in his prime.

But of course i believe DLH could have done better against Pac had it been years earlier, but he got such a beatdown its unfair to Pac to say Pac might have beat DLH in DLHs prime and taking the mickey.

But you said Hatton was going to blow Floyd away and was raving on about it for mths , what you really see is fanboy favoritism and its as bias as hell it distorts the message your brain is given , you cant debate the science of boxing because you dont comprehend it and you ignore fact that is in your face just to follow your fanboy hero , along with your love of a hero builds your hate of your lifes first boogie man Floyd , the more he wins the more you hate him , childlike by its very nature !

Oscar got a beat down because he was a physical rag doll with nothing ! what dont you understand about that kid , you ever witnessed an athlete man or beast that was ruined in training , they a dead , only a kid fanboy could praise the conquerer of a an already dead man .

[therealpugilist]

I agree, but i have seen nothing of DLH to suggest he wouldnt lose to Pac in his prime.

But of course i believe DLH could have done better against Pac had it been years earlier, but he got such a beatdown its unfair to Pac to say Pac might have beat DLH in DLHs prime and taking the mickey.
On the other hand if you said in DLHs prime he would have done better and even beat Pac then that is acceptable approach at looking at it.

Honestly I think it would have been a close fight.....Oscar always had problems with smaller faster guys and didnt know whether to box them or fight them ala Whitaker, Mayweather, Mosely even Forbes to some extent...Of all these fights, Manny is for sure easier to hit and prime DLH at welterweight hit harder than anyone he fought at the time he faced them at the weight...

also considering ODLH had better reflexes waay faster hands in his prime...it was gonna be a close fight but I just see ODLH taking Manny's best shots than the other way around.....I always felt either Manny outpoints him if he chose to brawl, but if he chose to fight outside and counter he could outpoint Manny or get a late stoppage

[dde91]

Someone who beat the best time and time again and again isn't overrated to me. so no

[Brother Jay]

Someone who beat the best time and time again and again isn't overrated to me. so no

Ahem .. who are the best?

[hugh grant]

Honestly I think it would have been a close fight.....Oscar always had problems with smaller faster guys and didnt know whether to box them or fight them ala Whitaker, Mayweather, Mosely even Forbes to some extent...Of all these fights, Manny is for sure easier to hit and prime DLH at welterweight hit harder than anyone he fought at the time he faced them at the weight...

also considering ODLH had better reflexes waay faster hands in his prime...it was gonna be a close fight but I just see ODLH taking Manny's best shots than the other way around.....I always felt either Manny outpoints him if he chose to brawl, but if he chose to fight outside and counter he could outpoint Manny or get a late stoppage

I just dont see DLH beating Pac anytime. DLH said Pacs power didnt hurt him, and that it was the speed. I think Pac knew speed is what beats DLH and it would be no different in DLHs prime.

Pac hasnt been dropped for gosh knows how long so its being too optimistic to say he stops Pac as it isnt based on anything......certainly not anything DLH has actually done with top flight fighters.

[Reloaded]

Someone who beat the best time and time again and again isn't overrated to me. so no

Winning with a handicap is not quite the same not all wins are equal , history will look at the handicaps very hard , today is the hype stage , while history and time is the truth stage .

[Brother Jay]

Winning with a handicap is not quite the same not all wins are equal , history will look at the handicaps very hard , today is the hype stage , while history and time is the truth stage .

EXACTLY.

Pacfans don't factor in handicaps. Remember Reloaded, Manny is "oh so small". So its okay for him to stipulate catchweights for title matches despite the fact that he's been making WW since he was a SFW.

These guys are clowns.

[hugh grant]

Winning with a handicap is not quite the same not all wins are equal , history will look at the handicaps very hard , today is the hype stage , while history and time is the truth stage .

What you mean with FLoyd bloating JMM up and coming over the weight limit on the scales, or getting referee help

EXACTLY.

Pacfans don't factor in handicaps. Remember Reloaded, Manny is "oh so small". So its okay for him to stipulate catchweights for title matches despite the fact that he's been making WW since he was a SFW.

These guys are clowns.

So you saying Pac has been weight drained all his career and still whooping ass? And asking for CW was no big deal, as Pac is handicapping himself?

You pac haters are cruising for a bruising. I have to use self restraint to not start threads up, and me starting threads is not something youd like believe me, you just dont give it up do you, absolute trouble makers and spiteful losers. You are making Pac the legend he is. It wont be long now before people will only be debating who is second behind Pac in history. Some people think like that already but with the help of you two clowns help, you really are moving towards everyone thinking it.

Whatever it is you think you are acheiving you are wrong, you aint.

[therealpugilist]

I just dont see DLH beating Pac anytime. DLH said Pacs power didnt hurt him, and that it was the speed. I think Pac knew speed is what beats DLH and it would be no different in DLHs prime.

Pac hasnt been dropped for gosh knows how long so its being too optimistic to say he stops Pac as it isnt based on anything......certainly not anything DLH has actually done with top flight fighters.

Oscar has legitimate kayos and stoppages at 147 and higher...also look at who Manny fought at welterweight or higher and when he fought them.....

Cotto was coming off a shellacking(busted manny up and damaged his ear drum), Mosley hadnt won a fight in 2 years and was almost 40, Margarito was coming off a shellacking and is slow as molasses and hurt Manny several times, Marquez was coming from lightweight hurt him in the 2nd and 3rd fights, and Hatton though a good bodypuncher wasnt a big puncher

Has manny been dropped, yes so it proves he can be dropped

Prime DLH would be the hardest puncher he ever faced, with the fastest hands he had faced and Manny isnt willie pep defense wise

Manny h

[straightleft]

Winning with a handicap is not quite the same not all wins are equal , history will look at the handicaps very hard , today is the hype stage , while history and time is the truth stage .

Speaking of handicap....Floyd forced Hatton and Marquez to move up to fight in his own division. Not only the handicap he also weight cheated Marquez and sucker punched Ortiz to ensure his victory. The moral lesson here, you should not clean other peoples backyard when you cant clean your own.