Is Manny Pacquiao the most overrated fighter of the past 25 years?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • The Gambler1981
    Undisputed Champion
    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
    • May 2008
    • 25961
    • 520
    • 774
    • 49,039

    #51
    Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
    wait til he retires...as with previous greats, the legend grows when they hang em up
    True, but that is fine. In 50 years he will be a fire breathing dragon that no mortal man would dare challenge.

    I will be over 80 at that point, so I can get away with being a curmudgeonly old man without getting called a hater~

    Comment

    • therealpugilist
      Undisputed Champion
      Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
      • May 2012
      • 14612
      • 561
      • 4
      • 45,735

      #52
      Originally posted by _original_
      He's a great fighter but I do think he's pretty overrated. I mean Pacquiao at the very least is in the top 3 of this era, but casual fans and the media will try to make you believe he's the second coming of Robinson.
      exactly what i mean

      Comment

      • DeadLikeMe
        ................
        Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
        • Dec 2011
        • 11968
        • 748
        • 1,409
        • 26,662

        #53
        Originally posted by Paclan
        who said pacquaio was the best fighter of all time?
        Hugh grant and puga say that all the time

        Comment

        • Brother Jay
          Banned
          • Apr 2006
          • 1733
          • 201
          • 65
          • 1,890

          #54
          Originally posted by therealpugilist
          Some one posted this in one of the previous threads....Ive always thought about it but I have to agree.Most people add into how likeable a fighter is when considering their place among the greats, but really it has no creedance.

          Of the previous p4p kings Mayweather(who never lost and is still active Manny got p4p by default), Roy Jones, and Pernell Whitaker none of them got the praise of Pacquiao and they were more dominant and illustrated more skill in the ring

          Fighters who were undoubtedly the best of their time like Roy Jones and Pernell Whitaker didnt recieve half the hoopla Pacquaio does and both beat their closest rivals of their time. Both never lost a clear fight til their mid 30's and dominated their eras and people always have something to say about their style or competition. Jones and Floyd Mayweather beat more champions than Manny, and Whitaker proved he was the best of his era by fighting the best


          I think its his fans that overrate him, but most hardcore fans and other people dont....some of his ardent fans assertions are a bit far fetched and overboard
          I agree.

          However, there have been much worse cases of hype jobs than Manny Pacquiao. Yes, Pacquiao is the beneficiary of plenty of hype since signing to fight Oscar DelaHoya and every fight since then, but prior to the DLH bout Pacquiao had a legitimate campaign while rising up the ranks.

          Sure Manny padded the hell out of his record with 30+ fights against obscure bums in southeast Asia, but he's has some scraps against solid name fighters that legitimize him being seen as a top brawler.

          Bute never really has. Calzaghe really didn't either until Jones and Hopkins got old.

          What really legitimizes a fighter as elite is if he can face the top 3 in a given division(s) and win over and over again. If he can reign with longevity against the top 3, and then move up and do it again against a new set of top 3, and do it again and again and again and again ... there are no questions left about his well deserved perception.

          If someone hides out in a corner and only fights bums for 98% of their career and then adds a few faded names towards the end ... but is hailed as some conqueror of the sport ... well then that's overrated.

          A LOT of names fit that criteria. Lots.

          Comment

          • BoxingGenius27
            Banned
            Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
            • Dec 2009
            • 8502
            • 370
            • 463
            • 9,603

            #55
            Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
            how may PAC threads you plan on making today?


            for someone who doesnt impress you and you think is the most overrated, you sure do yap about the guy a lot
            **Cape flapping in the wind**

            Melody: "Here I come to save the dayyyyyyyy, mighty Mak is on his wayyyyy".

            Comment

            • RajahBell
              Interim Champion
              Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
              • May 2009
              • 648
              • 48
              • 18
              • 6,977

              #56
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              wow its ok, dont have a ****.....this is my only account...You can agree or disagree, but as for me because of his ardent fans Manny Pacquiao is the most overrated fighter of the past 25 years....as i also clearly stated before he is one of the best, just not the best....I explained why without slandering his accomplishments but I guess I dont know **** about boxing since Manny Pacquaio aint the best fighter of all time in my eyes...LOL....he aint even the best fighter of his era in my opinion....YES MY OPINION
              All fans Overrate their favorite fighters, that's why fan is short for fanatics. Win or lose, do or die, a true fan will support their favorite no matter what.

              If you think about overrated, Lucian Bute definitely comes to mind. Imagine that he was rated above Andre Ward as the best Super Middleweight even though he hasn't been tested in the ring. It usually happens to the up and coming boxers, until they face tough competition its mostly hype.

              Comment

              • The Tase
                NSB War Veteran
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Apr 2010
                • 4881
                • 760
                • 646
                • 14,229

                #57
                Originally posted by _original_
                He's a great fighter but I do think he's pretty overrated. I mean Pacquiao at the very least is in the top 3 of this era, but casual fans and the media will try to make you believe he's the second coming of Robinson.
                Originally posted by therealpugilist
                exactly what i mean
                show me a credible boxing publication, journalist, analyst that said pacquiao is the second coming of robinson.

                Originally posted by Paclan
                who said pacquaio was the best fighter of all time?
                spoon & puga said it. Must be true.

                Comment

                • Lineal Champ
                  Interim Champion
                  Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 712
                  • 36
                  • 19
                  • 7,058

                  #58
                  Mayweather is more overrated. Just look at the who hes fought last 3 years

                  Comment

                  • -MAKAVELLI-
                    Banned
                    Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 50080
                    • 3,580
                    • 2,792
                    • 169,000

                    #59
                    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                    **Cape flapping in the wind**

                    Melody: "Here I come to save the dayyyyyyyy, mighty Mak is on his wayyyyy".



                    go make another thread how 154 is the best because it has Omar Henry

                    Comment

                    • boliodogs
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                      • May 2008
                      • 33358
                      • 824
                      • 1,782
                      • 309,589

                      #60
                      If Pacquiao is overrated then the boxing writers are overrating him because he won fighter of the decade. These are professonal boxing writers, not *******s.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP