Originally posted by tikay0036
Watching that old Pacquiao ko highlight, young Pac-Man didnt seem destined greatness
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you aint fooling anybody. I know what your up to. Just stop.So because i dont agree with you i hate the guy or am not a fan of his? Im a fan of boxing and if you want to know my number one is Ward. I think he is the most gifted boxer out there. Am i a fan of Floyd yes i am but never said i wasnt of Pac. Do i think his su****ion has an effect on me saying he is not a HOFer, atthis point, yes but pre-Diaz, yes i did watch boxing since i was a child which some on here still are, i did think he was good, very good as stated and i have stated that he was on his way to HOF, which i can see that some say boxing circles were talkign about it, talking about it but not saying hes a sure shot HOFer. Im in that boat. Like i said to each his ownComment
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This is what i mean. Floyd not even in this thread but most cant escape mentioning him at some point. Or calling those who dont agree fanboys or dicriders
By the way I dont care. If he is dirty then he is dirty. Test them all i say.Comment
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so if some one states their opinion without discrediting the guy, they are hating....i never said anything about him taking PED....just that when I first saw him fight I didnt think he'd be where he is...some people make mountains out of mole hillsComment
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when people ask questions, or make comments about Pacquiao people cant help but bring up Mayweather.....Mayweather was quoted saying this himself and it is true.....when I started the thread I was saying my opinion of him in the early days...it had nothing to do with MayweatherComment
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Cotto 3 division title holder..
zero lineal champion.
Cotto best win is what? Mosley back in 07? Is that his best win? How is that win better than say Pac win over JMM in 08?
What is Cotto 2nd best win? Quintana? How is that better than Sasakul? Or was it Judah? How is that better than the 2nd Morales win? Or was it Clottey? How was that better than the JMM draw?. Or was it the 2nd Margarito fight? How was that better than the third Morales win? Or was it Foreman? How was the better than the Ledwaba win?
Didn't even mention Pac best win over a prime ATG in Barrera. Which is the best win of his career.
Pac was a 4 division title holder
And, a 3 division lineal champion
While skipping 2 whole weight-class in the process.
Yet Cotto is a HOF'er. But, Pac wasn't a HOF'er pre Diaz. Yet you watched boxing Back then? OK.
Lets go win for win and accomplishment with Pac and Cotto.Comment
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Cotto 3 division title holder..
zero lineal champion.
Cotto best win is what? Mosley back in 07? Is that his best win? How is that win better than say Pac win over JMM in 08?
What is Cotto 2nd best win? Quintana? How is that better than Sasakul? Or was it Judah? How is that better than the 2nd Morales win? Or was it Clottey? How was that better than the JMM draw?. Or was it the 2nd Margarito fight? How was that better than the third Morales win? Or was it Foreman? How was the better than the Ledwaba win?
Didn't even mention Pac best win over a prime ATG in Barrera. Which is the best win of his career.
Pac was a 4 division title holder
And, a 3 division lineal champion
While skipping 2 whole weight-class in the process.
Yet Cotto is a HOF'er. But, Pac wasn't a HOF'er pre Diaz. Yet you watched boxing Back then? OK.
Lets go win for win and accomplishment with Pac and Cotto.
gtfo with those facts and logic. Cotto bloodied Floyd's nose. that's automatic induction to IBHOF.Comment
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Like i said many dont agree with me that Cotto is a HOFer (never said first ballot to be clear) and thats fine they dont think he is cause they dont think his wins are that good as you dont. But there are many who do. So why is it hard to accept that there are those who think pre-Diaz Pac is a HOFer and those who dont think his wins are worthy enough. He had good wins and ok ill call MAB a great win but he lost to prime Morales and then fought a shot fighter the next two times and i am one of those who think JMM is 2-0-1 with Pac. So yes i watched boxing back then but i just dont agree with you and vice versa.Cotto 3 division title holder..
zero lineal champion.
Cotto best win is what? Mosley back in 07? Is that his best win? How is that win better than say Pac win over JMM in 08?
What is Cotto 2nd best win? Quintana? How is that better than Sasakul? Or was it Judah? How is that better than the 2nd Morales win? Or was it Clottey? How was that better than the JMM draw?. Or was it the 2nd Margarito fight? How was that better than the third Morales win? Or was it Foreman? How was the better than the Ledwaba win?
Didn't even mention Pac best win over a prime ATG in Barrera. Which is the best win of his career.
Pac was a 4 division title holder
And, a 3 division lineal champion
While skipping 2 whole weight-class in the process.
Yet Cotto is a HOF'er. But, Pac wasn't a HOF'er pre Diaz. Yet you watched boxing Back then? OK.
Lets go win for win and accomplishment with Pac and Cotto.
This is similar to Cris Carter and the hall, in a sense. Some say he is good enough to get in and im one of them but he isnt in..yet. Which means some dont think he was good enough.Comment
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