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  • Danny Gunz
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    #71
    Originally posted by Harry Balls
    Texas? Seems like a great idea Marquez. No chance to get robbed there!
    Lol, exactly what I was thinking

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    • loui_ludwig
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      #72
      Yes, Texas is the right place to get fair judging. And California is up there too.

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      • loui_ludwig
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        #73
        Originally posted by Primera
        Ring Magazine - Robbery of the Year!

        75% (90% before remade) JMM won NSB polls
        92% JMM won HBO polls

        19/20 ringside insiders had JMM winning
        Here you go: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1595865, read from top to bottom.

        Blake Dreisbach, BleacherReport.com: 116-112 Marquez
        Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 116-112 Marquez
        Ron Borges, The Sweet Science/Boston Herald/Ring Magazine: 117-112 Marquez
        Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Marquez
        Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Marquez
        Michael Marley, The Examiner: 115-113 Marquez
        Mike Coppinger, ******.com: 115-113 Marquez
        Al Bernstein: 115-113 Marquez
        Wayne McCullough: 115-113 Marquez
        Ryan Maquinana, BoxingScene.com: 116-113 Marquez
        Matt Hamilton, EsNews.com: 116-115 Marquez
        Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 115-113 Marquez
        Bob Sheridan: 115-114 Marquez
        John Katsilometes, Las Vegas Sun: 115-114 Marquez
        Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com: 117-113 Marquez
        Bill Dwyer, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Marquez
        Pedro Fernandez, RingTalk.com: 116-113 Marquez
        Chris Williams, ************.com: 117-111 Marquez
        Eric Raskin, TheSweetScience.com: 116-112 Marquez
        Lyle Fitzsimmons, The Sports Network: 116-112 Marquez
        Steve Bunce, BBC: 117-111 Marquez
        Matt Lynch, BoxingToday: 116-112 Marquez
        Chuck Giampa, Retired Boxing Judge: 116-112 Marquez
        Glyn Leach, Boxing Monthly: 115-113 Marquez
        Briggs Seekins, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Marquez
        Oly Goldstein, BadLeftHook.com: 116-112 Marquez
        Johnny Benz, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-111 Marquez
        Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Marquez
        George Willis, New York Post: 115-113 Marquez
        Rich Thomas, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 116-112 Marquez
        Raj Parmar, 3MoreRounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
        Norm Frauenheim, 15Rounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
        Martin Rogers, Yahoo! Sports: 115-113 Marquez
        James Slater, ********Boxing.com: 116-112 Marquez
        Nick Tylwalk, BoxingWatchers.com: 115-113 Marquez
        Bob Velin, USAToday: 115-113 Marquez
        Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Marquez
        Igor Guryashkin, ESPN: Marquez by one round
        Brent Brookhouse, SB Nation: 115-113 Marquez
        Will Cooling, FOX Sports/InsideFights: 118-110 Marquez
        Andrew Fruman, The Boxing Bulletin: 116-112 Marquez
        Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 115-113 Marquez
        Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine/TheSweetScience.com/TheFist: 117-111 Marquez
        Dan Ambrose, ************.com: 116-112 Marquez
        Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian: 117-114 Marquez
        Paul Magno, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
        Jerry Izenberg, Newark Star-Ledger: 115-114 Marquez
        Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Marquez
        Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Marquez
        Fox Doucette, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
        Henry Ramirez, Boxing Trainer: 116-113 Marquez
        Thomas Hauser, SecondsOut.com: 116-113 Marquez
        Gerardo Granados, ************.com: 116-112 Marquez
        Robert Guerrero: 116-112 Marquez
        Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 115-113 Marquez
        Graham Shaw, SportingLife.com: 116-113 Marquez
        Max Kellerman, HBO: 114-114 Draw
        Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 114-114 Draw
        Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 114-114 Draw
        Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 114-114 Draw
        Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN/Reuters: 114-114 Draw
        Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
        Brian Campbell, ESPN Mobile: 114-114 Draw
        george Elsasser, BraggingRightsCorner.com: 114-114 Draw
        Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 114-114 Draw
        Anthony Whitby, BoxingIQ.com: 114-114 Draw
        Jeff Powell, The Daily Mail (UK): 114-114 Draw
        Pace Miller, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
        Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 114-114 Draw
        Larry Merchant, HBO: 114-114 Draw
        Elie Seckbach, ESNews.com/AOL News: 114-114 Draw
        Roy Jones, Jr.: Draw
        Joe Bruiser, FightFan.com: 116-116 Draw
        Michael Wright, ESPNChicago.com: Draw
        Mark Lichtenfeld, Ring Announcer/Member, Ring Magazine Ratings Panel: 114-114 Draw
        Teddy June, RingJunkies.com: 114-114 Draw
        Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com: 114-114 Draw
        Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 114-114 Draw
        Frank Baltazar, Fight Manager/Inductee, California Boxing Hall of Fame: 115-115 Draw
        Justin Tate, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
        Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 114-114 Draw
        Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 114-114 Draw
        Gary Andrew Pool, The Atlantic: 114-114 Draw
        Beau Denison, SportsPageMagazine.com: 114-114 Draw
        Daniel Herbert, Boxing News: 114-114 Draw
        Leighton Ginn, Desert Sun (Palm Springs): 114-114 Draw
        Doveed Linder, **********.com: 114-114 Draw
        Bob Papa, HBO: 114-114 Draw
        Andrew Eisele, Boxing.about.com: 115-115 Draw
        Charles Horgan, Boxing Tribune: 114-114 Draw
        Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 114-114 Draw (Note: At the end of his live blog of the fight, he indicated his belief that Marquez had won; however, in his round-by-round, he scored Rounds 1-2, 5-7 and 12 for Marquez and Rounds 3-4 and 8-11 for Pacquiao.)
        Kevin Cunningham, Boxing Trainer: Draw
        Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
        Joseph Herron, FightSaga: 116-112 Pacquiao
        Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Will Carroll, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
        Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 116-113 Pacquiao
        Chris Koegler, TheRealHook.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        David Kassel, FightHype.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Rob Rutz, MyBoxingFans.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Sean Sullivan, BoxingDigest: 115-114 Pacquiao
        Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
        Brian Mazique, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Glen Anglin, ************.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Michael Rosenthal, Editor, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Skip Bayless, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
        Jake Donovan, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
        Bill Shimizu, Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Massimo Lopes Pegna, La Gazzetta dello Sport (Italy): 115-114 Pacquiao
        James Foley, BleacherReport.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
        Anthony Lee, ************.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
        John McCormick, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/*********.com/ESPN: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Nick Fors, Pasionsports.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Ronald Geronimo, NowBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Danny Serratelli, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Sean Faye, Eurosport Yahoo!: 116-115 Pacquiao
        Scott Shaffer, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Nate Ravitz, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
        Mike Chiari, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Patrick L. Stumberg, SBNation: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Colin Seymour, FrontPageBoxing.com/Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Jason Peck, ********Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
        Steve Busfield, The Guardian: 116-114 Pacquiao
        Nick Fox, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Stephen Edwards, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Max Parker, Boxing Watchers: 115-114 Pacquiao
        Adam Hirshfield, Bleacher Report.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        King J Gladney, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Ben Weisman, ************.com: 116-113 Pacquiao
        Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 116-113 Pacquiao
        Michael David Smith, AOL NEWS/MMA Fighting.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Madra Uladh, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Michael Woods, ESPN/TheSweetScience.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
        Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com/Examiner.com: Pacquiao by one round
        "Old Yank" Schneider, Boxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
        Greg Leon, **********.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
        Steve Marzolf, InsideHBOBoxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
        Darrell La Montre, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
        Terra (Brazil): 116-112 Pacquiao
        Joel Huerto, SportsFanLive: 115-113 Pacquiao

        None of the above scores for Marquez or a draw is from Mexican media/boxers.
        None of the above scores for Pacquiao or a draw is from Philippine media/boxers.
        Among the unofficial scorers above, 56 scored the bout for Marquez, 51 scored the bout for Pacquiao, and the remainder scored the bout a draw.

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        • boliodogs
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          #74
          His terms sound reasonable to me and I hope he gets the fight with those terms and asks for a reasonable purse of 10 million or so and does not price himself out of the fight.

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          • Primera
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            #75
            should post that huge list of boxers who also said marquez won

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            • caveez
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              #76
              JMM will lose for a 4th time. He's better off moving along with his life, another loss will cause him to be more obsessive with Manny than he already is.

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              • Hyper Knuckles
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                #77
                Just don't get robbed again bro

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                • Fearless BONG
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                  #78
                  LOL Still Many JMM fans crying for a win....

                  3-0 against Pac seems that JMM want a win desperately...

                  and now without a single win he want that he will dictate the terms ... LOL

                  Funny sore loser.

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                  • CasualBoxingFan
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                    #79
                    MArquez won their last fight,

                    how the f@k can you argue it,wasn't even a fight, just a Marquez highlight reel. Lol.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by loui_ludwig
                      Here you go: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1595865, read from top to bottom.

                      Blake Dreisbach, BleacherReport.com: 116-112 Marquez
                      Gabriel Montoya, MaxBoxing.com: 116-112 Marquez
                      Ron Borges, The Sweet Science/Boston Herald/Ring Magazine: 117-112 Marquez
                      Tim Smith, New York Daily News: 116-112 Marquez
                      Lem Satterfield, Ring Magazine: 117-111 Marquez
                      Michael Marley, The Examiner: 115-113 Marquez
                      Mike Coppinger, ******.com: 115-113 Marquez
                      Al Bernstein: 115-113 Marquez
                      Wayne McCullough: 115-113 Marquez
                      Ryan Maquinana, BoxingScene.com: 116-113 Marquez
                      Matt Hamilton, EsNews.com: 116-115 Marquez
                      Ed Graney, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 115-113 Marquez
                      Bob Sheridan: 115-114 Marquez
                      John Katsilometes, Las Vegas Sun: 115-114 Marquez
                      Bart Barry, 15Rounds.com: 117-113 Marquez
                      Bill Dwyer, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Marquez
                      Pedro Fernandez, RingTalk.com: 116-113 Marquez
                      Chris Williams, ************.com: 117-111 Marquez
                      Eric Raskin, TheSweetScience.com: 116-112 Marquez
                      Lyle Fitzsimmons, The Sports Network: 116-112 Marquez
                      Steve Bunce, BBC: 117-111 Marquez
                      Matt Lynch, BoxingToday: 116-112 Marquez
                      Chuck Giampa, Retired Boxing Judge: 116-112 Marquez
                      Glyn Leach, Boxing Monthly: 115-113 Marquez
                      Briggs Seekins, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Marquez
                      Oly Goldstein, BadLeftHook.com: 116-112 Marquez
                      Johnny Benz, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-111 Marquez
                      Lance Pugmire, Los Angeles Times: 115-113 Marquez
                      George Willis, New York Post: 115-113 Marquez
                      Rich Thomas, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 116-112 Marquez
                      Raj Parmar, 3MoreRounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
                      Norm Frauenheim, 15Rounds.com: 115-113 Marquez
                      Martin Rogers, Yahoo! Sports: 115-113 Marquez
                      James Slater, ********Boxing.com: 116-112 Marquez
                      Nick Tylwalk, BoxingWatchers.com: 115-113 Marquez
                      Bob Velin, USAToday: 115-113 Marquez
                      Chris Manix, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Marquez
                      Igor Guryashkin, ESPN: Marquez by one round
                      Brent Brookhouse, SB Nation: 115-113 Marquez
                      Will Cooling, FOX Sports/InsideFights: 118-110 Marquez
                      Andrew Fruman, The Boxing Bulletin: 116-112 Marquez
                      Ben Thompson, FightHype.com: 115-113 Marquez
                      Scott Mallon, Ring Magazine/TheSweetScience.com/TheFist: 117-111 Marquez
                      Dan Ambrose, ************.com: 116-112 Marquez
                      Kevin Mitchell, The Guardian: 117-114 Marquez
                      Paul Magno, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
                      Jerry Izenberg, Newark Star-Ledger: 115-114 Marquez
                      Robert Morales, Los Angeles Daily News: 116-112 Marquez
                      Scott Christ, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Marquez
                      Fox Doucette, The Boxing Tribune: 115-113 Marquez
                      Henry Ramirez, Boxing Trainer: 116-113 Marquez
                      Thomas Hauser, SecondsOut.com: 116-113 Marquez
                      Gerardo Granados, ************.com: 116-112 Marquez
                      Robert Guerrero: 116-112 Marquez
                      Steve Kim, MaxBoxing.com: 115-113 Marquez
                      Graham Shaw, SportingLife.com: 116-113 Marquez
                      Max Kellerman, HBO: 114-114 Draw
                      Brian Arman Graham, Sports Illustrated: 114-114 Draw
                      Tim Dahlberg, Associated Press: 114-114 Draw
                      Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports: 114-114 Draw
                      Kieran Mulvaney, ESPN/Reuters: 114-114 Draw
                      Dan Rafael, ESPN: 114-114 Draw
                      Brian Campbell, ESPN Mobile: 114-114 Draw
                      george Elsasser, BraggingRightsCorner.com: 114-114 Draw
                      Jake Emen, ProBoxing-Fans.com: 114-114 Draw
                      Anthony Whitby, BoxingIQ.com: 114-114 Draw
                      Jeff Powell, The Daily Mail (UK): 114-114 Draw
                      Pace Miller, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
                      Gareth Davies, London Telegraph: 114-114 Draw
                      Larry Merchant, HBO: 114-114 Draw
                      Elie Seckbach, ESNews.com/AOL News: 114-114 Draw
                      Roy Jones, Jr.: Draw
                      Joe Bruiser, FightFan.com: 116-116 Draw
                      Michael Wright, ESPNChicago.com: Draw
                      Mark Lichtenfeld, Ring Announcer/Member, Ring Magazine Ratings Panel: 114-114 Draw
                      Teddy June, RingJunkies.com: 114-114 Draw
                      Rick Reeno, BoxingScene.com: 114-114 Draw
                      Robert Ecksel, Boxing.com: 114-114 Draw
                      Frank Baltazar, Fight Manager/Inductee, California Boxing Hall of Fame: 115-115 Draw
                      Justin Tate, BleacherReport.com: 114-114 Draw
                      Doug Fischer, Ring Magazine: 114-114 Draw
                      Steve Carp, Las Vegas Review-Journal: 114-114 Draw
                      Gary Andrew Pool, The Atlantic: 114-114 Draw
                      Beau Denison, SportsPageMagazine.com: 114-114 Draw
                      Daniel Herbert, Boxing News: 114-114 Draw
                      Leighton Ginn, Desert Sun (Palm Springs): 114-114 Draw
                      Doveed Linder, **********.com: 114-114 Draw
                      Bob Papa, HBO: 114-114 Draw
                      Andrew Eisele, Boxing.about.com: 115-115 Draw
                      Charles Horgan, Boxing Tribune: 114-114 Draw
                      Gordon Marino, The Wall Street Journal: 114-114 Draw (Note: At the end of his live blog of the fight, he indicated his belief that Marquez had won; however, in his round-by-round, he scored Rounds 1-2, 5-7 and 12 for Marquez and Rounds 3-4 and 8-11 for Pacquiao.)
                      Kevin Cunningham, Boxing Trainer: Draw
                      Harold Lederman, HBO: 116-112 Pacquiao
                      Joseph Herron, FightSaga: 116-112 Pacquiao
                      Cliff Rold, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Will Carroll, Sports Illustrated: 116-112 Pacquiao
                      Allen Barra, The Atlantic: 116-113 Pacquiao
                      Chris Koegler, TheRealHook.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      David Kassel, FightHype.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Rob Rutz, MyBoxingFans.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Sean Sullivan, BoxingDigest: 115-114 Pacquiao
                      Ted Sares, Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
                      Brian Mazique, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Glen Anglin, ************.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Michael Rosenthal, Editor, Ring Magazine: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Skip Bayless, ESPN: 116-112 Pacquiao
                      Jake Donovan, BoxingScene.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Ken Hissner, DogHouseBoxing.com: 118-110 Pacquiao
                      Bill Shimizu, Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Massimo Lopes Pegna, La Gazzetta dello Sport (Italy): 115-114 Pacquiao
                      James Foley, BleacherReport.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
                      Anthony Lee, ************.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
                      John McCormick, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Graham Houston, FightWriter.com/*********.com/ESPN: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Nick Fors, Pasionsports.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Ronald Geronimo, NowBoxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Danny Serratelli, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Ace Freeman, FightFan.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Sean Faye, Eurosport Yahoo!: 116-115 Pacquiao
                      Scott Shaffer, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Nate Ravitz, ESPN: 117-111 Pacquiao
                      Mike Chiari, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Patrick L. Stumberg, SBNation: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Colin Seymour, FrontPageBoxing.com/Examiner.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Jason Peck, ********Boxing.com: 116-112 Pacquiao
                      Steve Busfield, The Guardian: 116-114 Pacquiao
                      Nick Fox, Bad Left Hook: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Stephen Edwards, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Max Parker, Boxing Watchers: 115-114 Pacquiao
                      Adam Hirshfield, Bleacher Report.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      King J Gladney, BleacherReport.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Ben Weisman, ************.com: 116-113 Pacquiao
                      Ken Pollitt, the13thround.com: 116-113 Pacquiao
                      Michael David Smith, AOL NEWS/MMA Fighting.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Madra Uladh, ********Boxing.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Michael Woods, ESPN/TheSweetScience.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
                      Brad Cooney, 8CountNews.com/Examiner.com: Pacquiao by one round
                      "Old Yank" Schneider, Boxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
                      Greg Leon, **********.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
                      Steve Marzolf, InsideHBOBoxing.com: 115-114 Pacquiao
                      Darrell La Montre, **********.com: 115-113 Pacquiao
                      Terra (Brazil): 116-112 Pacquiao
                      Joel Huerto, SportsFanLive: 115-113 Pacquiao

                      None of the above scores for Marquez or a draw is from Mexican media/boxers.
                      None of the above scores for Pacquiao or a draw is from Philippine media/boxers.
                      Among the unofficial scorers above, 56 scored the bout for Marquez, 51 scored the bout for Pacquiao, and the remainder scored the bout a draw.


                      Only the official judge can declare who really wins ... everyone can score it but lets accept the reality that JMM just keep on riding his bicycle in order claim he wins the fight... shame on him....

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