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  • citolindo
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    #51
    Some of you guys are to passionate about a fighter who thinks about money before his legacy first. I just dont get it.

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      #52
      Originally posted by tredh
      You can't be talking about the ppv split cause in the last offer made PBF said his offer to Manny was a flat fee of 40Mill with no ppv money. So what ppv split are you talking about?
      When Pac ran away to Clottey, he had 50-50 across the table and didn't want it.

      The last offer is and will be the only offer. In fact, the longer this fight takes to get made, the less that amount will be. We all know Pac vs Bradley isn't going to break records. It's not going to help him any in negations which is why I see Bob turning to another JMM fight... in which Floyd will turn to Alvarez and we will see Floyd out-sell Pac again on PPV so its not going to get any better for Pac and having any leverage at the table.

      It is what it is, and Bob and Pac are going to have a take it or leave it offer. Like I said, I can't see Bob letting Pac retire and neither of them getting nothing.

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        #53
        Originally posted by WESS
        When Pac ran away to Clottey, he had 50-50 across the table and didn't want it.

        The last offer is and will be the only offer. In fact, the longer this fight takes to get made, the less that amount will be. We all know Pac vs Bradley isn't going to break records. It's not going to help him any in negations which is why I see Bob turning to another JMM fight... in which Floyd will turn to Alvarez and we will see Floyd out-sell Pac again on PPV so its not going to get any better for Pac and having any leverage at the table.

        It is what it is, and Bob and Pac are going to have a take it or leave it offer. Like I said, I can't see Bob letting Pac retire and neither of them getting nothing.
        Why talk about an offer we know is old and been off the table.

        Do you think the lastest offer 40Mill flat fee and no ppv money is a realistic offer to get the fight made?

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          #54
          Originally posted by tredh
          Why talk about an offer we know is old and been off the table.

          Do you think the lastest offer 40Mill flat fee and no ppv money is a realistic offer to get the fight made?
          No it's a ****ty offer but its not going to change...

          Bob and Pac had the opportunity to get equal money. They didn't want it and now lost most all their negotiating power at the table with Floyd and it's not going to get any better.

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            #55
            Originally posted by WESS
            No it's a ****ty offer but its not going to change...

            Bob and Pac had the opportunity to get equal money. They didn't want it and now lost most all their negotiating power at the table with Floyd and it's not going to get any better.
            The bold is all I was getting at from the very beginning

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              #56
              Originally posted by tredh
              The bold is all I was getting at from the very beginning
              but again ****ty or not, its not going to change so you're point doesn't really make any sense which is what I was getting at.

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                #57
                Originally posted by WESS
                but again ****ty or not, its not going to change so you're point doesn't really make any sense which is what I was getting at.
                It makes plenty of sense because its not a legit offer and PBF will get the blame for making that BS offer and not budging from it when everybody knows that is not going to make the fight happen.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by tredh
                  It makes plenty of sense because its not a legit offer and PBF will get the blame for making that BS offer and not budging from it when everybody knows that is not going to make the fight happen.
                  No, Mayweather originally made a 50/50 offer and Pac didn't want it. Why do you keep forgetting that.

                  Pac did not want 50/50 in 2009... Ironically, 3 years later he's still begging for for it.... Epic fail. He should have taken it when he had the chance. Again, Floyd will not change his stance as he originally gave Pac a 50/50 offer... and Pac walked away.

                  At the end of the day, people will question why Pac reacted the way he did to extra testing especially when it becomes the norm... Not, why did "money" Mayweather want such a big cut!

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by WESS
                    No, Mayweather originally made a 50/50 offer and Pac didn't want it. Why do you keep forgetting that.

                    Pac did not want 50/50 in 2009... Ironically, 3 years later he's still begging for for it.... Epic fail. He should have taken it when he had the chance. Again, Floyd will not change his stance as he originally gave Pac a 50/50 offer... and Pac walked away.

                    At the end of the day, people will question why Pac reacted the way he did to extra testing especially when it becomes the norm... Not, why did "money" Mayweather want such a big cut!
                    I haven't forgotten that at all. But its not relevant right now.

                    LLS you really believe the bold. If that is the case why isn't that talked about right now instead of PBF being unreasonable with his flat fee no ppv money offer?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by tredh
                      I haven't forgotten that at all. But its not relevant right now.

                      LLS you really believe the bold. If that is the case why isn't that talked about right now instead of PBF being unreasonable with his flat fee no ppv money offer?
                      It is relevant because its not like Floyd from day one priced himself out.

                      Also extra testing is not of the norm right now and people are only realizing just how important it is and how bad it looks on the fighters who have said no thank you, let the commission do their job.

                      As for why are people talking about the money split? Because it is a lot of money! In time, turning down the extra tests will be questioned more than a money split, especially if Pac finishes his career and never submits to it.

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